#but also all the other constellations and even incarnations

[colonp]

There's something about kdj as the " demon king of salvation" and the "oldest dream" as yjhs sponsor. kdj being yjhs salvation at the end of his regressions and also the cruelty that started them (demon) and how he lived for as long as the old dream had chasing his own dream. just incredibly fitting and symbolic I think

[tls12lessthan3]

one thing i enjoy about orv is how morally grey kim dokja is, especially in the beginning. during the beginning of the novel kim dokja seems to have almost no empathy for the people around him, and his number one priority is progressing the scenarios with himself being a secondary priority and saving others coming later. he does undeniable good, like saving jung heewon and caring for lee gilyoung - and he does some much more questionable things, like selling his food for coins knowing that it will disappear soon and people need the coins to survive.

this part of orv gets ignored a lot and chalked up to kim dokja's self-hatred, which i disagree with. yes he hates himself and yes he's an unreliable narrator who paints his actions in a worse light because of it but sometimes he just does objectively bad things. and it's interesting when he does! particularly in the beginning, he is focused completely on self-preservation and often steps on others in the process. his actions force you to ask questions like how responsible is kim dokja for those deaths on the subway car, or at that first subway station? is he obligated to try and save the people around him? how strong is that obligation? is it right of him to use his future knowledge the way he does, to decide who lives and dies? they're fairly basic questions, and orv doesn't particularly insist on answering them, but i enjoyed thinking about them nonetheless. the fact is kim dokja was often cruel, to strangers and his companions both, if different types. and you lose these questions when you ignore that. and thats not even to discuss the parallels between his exploitation of yoo joonghyuk's story and the way constellations gobble up incarnations while enjoying their pain. even if yoo joonghyuk eventually decides he considers it worth it, kim dokja still subsisted off of a living being's immeasurable pain for years, and that's a fucked up thing!

and to ignore kim dokja's less-than-moral actions also ignores kim dokja's character arc! kim dokja feels guilt at the end of orv for actions he wouldn't have thought twice about at the beginning and that is because he has changed and matured over the course of the novel and pretending he was always that way erases that. and i dont see why you would want to!! his journey towards seeing his companions as human and learning to care about the 'extras' he previously discarded and coming to understand the damage he inflicts with his self-sacrifice is interesting to watch and discuss. i've seen the stark contrast in empathy from early kim dokja to later kim dokja chalked up to sinshong not being quite sure how to write him yet and while i think that may have played a role i also think they did a good job of building and showing these changes through arcs like the demon world arc, the fruit of good and evil arc and the journey to the west arc

i think i lost my point somehwere but in summary kim dokja does some fucked up shit and some of it is basic edgelord apocalypse murder and some of it is genuinely interesting to contemplate and all of it is important to his character

[themissinghand]

Hi you...I hope you have a wonderful day.If you don't mind my request..I want to ask Kim Dokja x sweetheart!reader..The reader is his lover since school (The reader who expressed her feelings for Kim Dokja first.).Before the destruction happened, the reader behaved like a wife to Kim Dokja because the reader knew Kim Dokja's past so the reader gave everything for Kim Dokja to know that he was always loved. (This man needs comfort..).. After the destruction happened, they separated from each other..(Kim Dokja is on the train while the Reader is everywhere.)..Kim Dokja is always worried about the condition of his lover..When they meet again, their meeting is full of romance and fluff after being separated for a long time ..(I bet Kim Dokja's group was the most surprised and the uproar because the Reader and Kim Dokja are very polar opposite.)..The constellation supporting the Reader is also extraordinary..Because the privacy attribute of the reader is also extraordinary..

Thanks for reading..I hope I didn't bother you..I love your work😍..Give you a lot of love💕💕💕..(Btw ,did you read The S-Classes That I Raised or not ??..I love Han Yoojin)..Take care of yourself..Bye dear author 🥰..

Omniscient Reader Viewpoint: Fool

Summary: In which Kim Dokja is a fool for you.

Or snippets between Kim Dokja and his wife in an apocalyptic world.

Pairing: Kim Dokja x F! Wife! Reader

Note: Thanks for your patience! I’m also currently reading The S-Classes That I Raised Manhwa, but not the novel! The holy trinity with Han Yoojin, Kim Dokja, and Cale Henituse are literally my favourite trio. 

Warnings: Minor novel spoilers! Lots of kisses, fluffy, but also light angst, and implied sexual themes. 

★・・・・・・★

Oh Baby, I Missed You

Where are you? 

Kim Dokja watched what remained of Seoul while standing beside the protagonist of his novel. 

Even after all those scenarios, how come he could not see you even once? 

[The Constellation ‘Secretive Plotter’ is curious about what Incarnation ‘Kim Dokja’ is looking for]

As if on cue, Kim Dokja felt someone’s eyes on him. Spinning around with his hand on his sword, he matched the weariness of the sunfish beside him. 

“Baby!” Hearing a familiar voice, Dokja freezes in disbelief until he hears two blades clashing with one another. 

“Who are you?” Yoo Joonghyk growled at you, who defended well and jumped back. But instead of a blade, you had a long bo staff. 

“Me? I’m Dokja’s wife.” 

“WHAT?!” The door to the rooftop swung open with multiple heads popping through in shock. 

“Is that true Dokja-ssi?” Yoo Sangrah asked, and when all of the attention was on him, Kim Dokja sheepishly nodded. 

“WHAT???? So you and Master-” Jung Heewon immediately covered Lee Jihye's mouth and grinned. 

“Nice to meet you er…”

“(L/N) (F/N). Been Dokja’s lover since a decade ago.” You smiled sweetly, before walking towards Dokja with open arms. 

“I missed you baby.” 

This time, Kim Dokja walked forward and hugged you tightly, and he felt embarrassed when everyone was watching him.

[The Constellation ‘Demon-Like Judge of Fire’ is wiping her tears] 

[The Constellation ‘Demon-Like Judge of Fire’ did not know Incarnation ‘Kim Dokja’ was already taken]

[Many Constellations wishes for your happiness]  

“Baby, can I kiss you?” Kim Dokja flushed at your innocent question, but looking over your shoulder, he saw the wiggling eyebrows and grinning expressions from his teammates. Despite knowing his team would tease him forever, he knew he couldn’t reject your request. 

“I miss you too.” 

Without another moment, you cup his cheeks and pull him in for not one, not two, but three quick kisses. 

[The Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ jaw dropped]

There were surprised gasps and squeals, and a few hushes from Lee Heewon. 

“No wonder he always looks like he’s looking for something…”

“This is not for children to see.” 

“But hyung is-” 

[The Constellation ‘Abyssal Black Flame Dragon’ gags]

[The Constellation ‘Secretive Plotters’ did not expect a romantic plot]

[The Constellation ‘Demon-Like Judge of Fire’ donates 1000 coins]

[The Constellation ‘Demon-Like Judge of Fire’ is squealing at the reunion kiss]

“You have a lot of constellations following you baby. As expected of you.” Kim Dokja, still a little breathless and dazed from the consecutive kisses, buries his face into your shoulder in embarrassment while you play with his hair. 

He missed this.

He missed you.

“I didn’t know my constellation was following you too.” Kim Dokja perked up at your words in interest.

“Which one?” 

[The Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ slowly looks away in disbelief]

“No way.” Maybe her long bo staff should have been an indicator. 

[The Constellation ‘Demon-Like Judge of Fire’ looks at the Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ suspiciously]

[The Constellation ‘Secretive Plotter’ looks at the Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ suspiciously]

[The Constellation ‘Abyssal Black Flame Dragon’ looks at the Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ suspiciously]

You smiled innocently as if it wasn’t a big deal, and was just happy to see him. 

[The Constellation ‘Prisoner of the Golden Headband’ pats himself on the back and is proud he has good eyes]

So Don’t Go, Stay With Me

“Do you have to go?” 

“Yea. I have to go find my family. I’ll be safe, and I know you’ll be safe since you have such reliable people around you.” 

You cup his cheeks as you two stare into each other’s eyes lovingly. 

“Message me if you need me, and I’ll come with my nimbus cloud at any time.”

Knowing that your constellation was the Monkey King, Kim Dokja knew you were capable and perhaps on the same level as the protagonist. 

But…

“We can find them together.” 

“Dokja, don’t you already made plans with the sunfish?” He balled his hands into fists. 

“I want you to see the end of that novel you love so much. And I’ll come join you when I’m done. I promise.”

You tippy toe and then press a kiss to his forehead. 

“Baby, trust me.”

Kim Dokja then kisses your cheeks, before you decide to skip the formalities to kiss him on the lips. It was all it took for Kim Dokja to let go, and interlace your hands.

Soft and sweet, Kim Dokja felt loved with how gentle you are with him. He doesn’t want you to go. 

And he will miss you when you are gone. 

Kiss Me Slowly, Show Me You Love Me

Kim Dokja knew you were the one when you jumped after him.

"Kim Dokja!"

When he saw you reach out for him as he fell from that rooftop in middle school.

When you proposed to him on one knee, and kissed his hands as you whisk him away from his miserable reality.

He knew you were the one, when you cried for him, and saved his life, again and again.

“Don’t touch him. Even if you are his mother and my mother-in-law, you have no right to kill him to prove a point.” 

“Move.” 

“Over my dead body.” 

Kim Dokja could barely see you standing before his sleeping body, beside Han Sooyoung, protecting him from his mother.

[The Fourth Wall is shaking] 

“You don’t know anything.” 

“That’s fine with me. I trust Dokja more than you.” In the next moment, he felt a cloud form underneath him, followed by curses and gunshots being fired. 

“It’s you! You’re the one who he loves the most! And you’re going to kill him!”

Feeling your calloused hands on top of his head, he saw many versions of you pop out. 

Was it the duplication skill that the Monkey King had? 

“I’ll break the prophecy because I will never hurt my baby.” 

Kim Dokja smiled faintly, before he lost consciousness again. 

Because Only You Can Kill Me

“Baby, you can’t do this.” 

The world is silent for once. The channel was off and both of you paid the price for such privacy. 

“It’s the only way.” 

“Kim Dokja.” He flinches when you call his full name, you never do.

“I have to. It’s the only way that the story will move on.” 

“There has to be another way.” You purse your lips and rub your temples. 

“There has to be a way.”

Kim Dokja held your hand solemnly. 

“There is no other way-”

“Shut up!” You shook off his hand in anger. 

He knows you know that this was the easiest way. 

“I’m not letting you sacrifice yourself!” 

That’s why you’re angry. 

He hugs you from behind. 

“You’re an idiot for even thinking that, there has to be another way!” You break out of his hold and stare at him straight in the eye. 

“If only I had more power-” Kim Dokja grabbed your hand and placed it on his heart.

“(Y/N), I only trust you. You know that right?” Kim Dokja smiles. 

“You’re the only one who can kill me. No one else can.” He felt your hand tremble as you took a shaky breath. 

“So please…kill me.” 

So the story can go on.

“Don’t look at me like that baby.” You say after short deliberation. 

Finally, with a subtle nod, you conceded with tears rolling down your cheeks. 

Then, without further ado, Kim Dokja pulls you in desperately, and both of you were surprised when he was the first to initiate the kiss. 

But when the two of you are so intimate and so close to one another, knowing that the future is uncertain, neither of you want to let go. 

Please, Make Me Your Everything

Kim Dokja feels so desperate in this apocalyptic world. 

He’s planning and looking so far ahead using his knowledge of the novel, and sometimes, he feels like an outlier. 

Perhaps he is. 

Just like he always has. 

But when he’s in your arms as you plant kisses from his collarbone and trails to his neck, he feels at the center of the world, your world. 

Slowly, he feels you kiss his jawline before going closer and closer to his lips, and feels impatient with how slow you are. Every single kiss tingles on his skin, making him remember every precious moment he had with you.

He will never admit it, but he’s frightened for the future. Not about his death (because he will come back, he has a backup for that), but during his absence. 

You are strong and responsible enough to lead the team, but he was afraid that you were going to take on the burden alone. 

When he finally feels your lips on his, he pulls you closer, treasuring every second of you just like how you make him feel alive everyday. 

“Baby. What’s wrong?” Your fingers gently wipe his tear away as you hold him, and when he feels your tears drop on him, he couldn’t help himself. 

“I’m sorry. I just…” 

“Shh, you don’t have to explain yourself to me. I trust you.” Kissing him on his nose gave him butterflies, but even so, he couldn’t get rid of this bitterness in his heart. 

“I love you. I love you. I love you so much.” Dokja repeated the same words until his voice croaked and his lips became dry.

All the while you ruffled his hair and massaged his scalp, and responded to each of his confessions with affirmation. 

“We’re gonna be okay, and you’re gonna be okay. I’ll wait for you Baby.”

That night, Kim Dokja cried himself to sleep in your arms, and for the first time in a long time, he felt warm, secure, and well-rested. 

So when he feels his own sword pierce through his heart painlessly by the one who he swore his eternity to, he feels just as safe and happy. 

You catches him as he falls, as you cry silently and reminds him to come back soon. 

“Don’t forget me, please.” 

How could he? When you’re the one who chose to move forward with the story, when you’re the one who will face his team after their reckless plan?  

He was already greedy and selfish, wanting you to never forget him and wait for him, however long that may be.

Kim Dokja is a fool.

An idiot that only makes you cry.

With a strained smile, he nods before noticing the notification above. 

[Incarnation ‘Kim Dokja’ will be killed by the person he loves the most]

When he wakes up, he promises that he will never sacrifice himself again.

But the story must go on.

[redrandomposts]

ooo clarifications for the alnst x orv crossover

- i wasnt calling till "secretive plotter" as his constellation name owo it was more like "florist!character" where the word before the exclamation mark describes what the character is like in the au hehe

- constellations dont need to sponsor incarnations to watch their channels! they can simply come and go as they please. hades is also very likely to still watch ivan regardless of sponsorship since ivan is connected to dokja and hades is like a doting, concerned father for dokja LMAOOO

suitor vs grandfather lowkey fighting to sponsor ivan 😭 ivan gets an unholy amnt of coins sponsored to him by both sides and hes like lmao better get some use out of these ...

two paths for this au : ivan gets sponsored by hades, or ivan gets sponsored by till

- ivan being sponsored by hades also means he's getting sponsored by persephone in extension and gets skills and stigmas that stave off death like theyre cheat codes but aren't technically cheat codes 🤔 puts a stop to all his dying but it also means he's now more reckless w himself bc "undying stigma lol ✨"

- ivan being sponsored by till gets him spammed with [Constellation <insert name here> is looking at you.] at the most random times. his skills and stigmas would be related to ivan's themes/imagery in alien stage (the planet saturn, meteors, stars etc). they would also definitely get a shared fable called <Constants Till The End> or something because they ARE each other's constants am i right haha

as for till's constellation name... i was thinking something like <Unbound Songwriter of Bygone Times> or simply <Unbound Musician>

(i also have constellation names for ivan and sua since i have this OTHER alnst x orv crossover where ivan and sua are the outer gods disguised as constellations this time, just throwing it out there LMAO)

— 🌦️

hi again 🌦️!!

i seee... but also, i'm pretty sure constellations have to pay more to send "messages" for unsponsored streamers.... maybe i'm tripping, but also i'm clearly refusing to reread orv, so.

sometimes grandparents love their grandchildren more... like mine. if my father and grandparents didn't have conflicting political views, it'd be different, but alas. i'm more loved. thus, ivan's more loved, because im pretty sure the grandparents are convinced kdj did some fucked up shit to pass down his self-sacrifice. which, fair, shattering your soul is pretty fucked up.

why do i love unbound musician?? unbound is a really nice term for till...

a shared fable... forever attracted forever doomed... haha jk actor au exists and they're together (copium??) so.

some skill ideas from till:

-meteorite escape: a recreation of the night till and ivan escaped, except till stays. this gets rid of negative effects, but their mentality becomes childlike.

-muse: an investigative skill that can tell you about something in the form of song.

-another us: watch a potential outcome of an action in third person.

-obsession: mark a person or thing to track them until they die or something lol

-shallow emotion: force another person to be obsessed with you, even wanting to die for you.

my god i'm tired and its showing it's time to pass out

[talonabraxas]

Sirius, The God/Dog Star Talon Abraxas

Sirius was an object of wonder and veneration to all ancient peoples throughout human history. In the ancient Vedas this star was known as the Chieftain's star; in other Hindu writings, it is referred to as Sukra, the Rain God, or Rain Star. The Dog Star is also described as, "he who awakens the gods of the air, and summons them to their office of bringing the rain."

By the ancient Egyptians, Sirius was revered as the Nile Star, or Star of Isis. Its annual appearance just before dawn at the June 21 solstice, heralded the coming rise of the Nile, upon which Egyptian agriculture depended. This particular helical rising is referred to in many temple inscriptions, wherein the star is known as the Divine Sepat, identified as the soul of Isis.

For example, in the temple of Isis-Hathor at Dedendrah, Egypt, appears the inscription, "Her majesty Isis shines into the temple on New Year's Day, and she mingles her light with that of her father on the horizon." The Arabic word Al Shi'ra resembles the Greek, Roman, and Egyptian names suggesting a common origin in Sanskrit, in which the name Surya, the Sun God, simply means the "shining one."

For up to 35 days before and 35 days after our sun conjuncts the star Sirius ~ close to July 4 ~ it is hidden by the sun’s glare. The ancient Egyptians refused to bury their dead during the 70 days Sirius was hidden from view because it was believed Sirius was the doorway to the afterlife, and the doorway was thought to be closed during this yearly period.

In mythology the dog Sirius is one of the watchmen of the Heavens, fixed in one place at the bridge of the Milky Way, keeping guard over the abyss into incarnation. Its namesake the Dog Star is a symbol of power, will and steadfastness of purpose, exemplifying the initiate who has succeeded in bridging the lower and higher consciousness.

Located just below the Dog Star is the constellation called Argo, the Ship. Astrologically this region in the sky has been known as the River of Stars, gateway to the ocean of higher consciousness.

The Chinese recognized this area as the bridge between heaven and hell ~ the bridge of the gatherer, the judge. In the higher mind are gathered the results of the experiences of the personality.

Between each life the Soul judges its past progress, and also the conditions needed to aid its future growth. As long as it is attached to desire, sensation, and needs experiences, the Soul continues to come into incarnation. Until it is perfected, the Soul cannot pass over, or through, the Bridge.

The association of Sirius as a celestial dog has been consistent throughout the classical world; even in remote China, the star was identified as a heavenly wolf. In ancient Chaldea (present day Iraq) the star was known as the "Dog Star that Leads," or it was called the "Star of the Dog." In Assyria, it was said to be the "Dog of the Sun." In still older Akkadia, it was named the "Dog Star of the Sun."

In Greek times Aratus referred to Canis Major as the guard dog of Orion, following on the heels of its master and standing on its hind legs with alpha star Sirius carried in its jaws. The concept of the mind slaying the real can be seen in the tales which relate the dog as the hunter and killer ~ the hound from hell.

Manilius called Canis Major the "dog with the blazing face." Also called the Large Dog, Sirius appears to cross the sky in pursuit of the Hare, represented by the constellation Lepus under Orion's feet.

Mythologists such as Eratosthenes said that the constellation represents Laelaps, a dog so swift that no prey could escape it. Laelaps had a long list of owners. One story says it is the dog given by Zeus to Europa, whose son Minos, King of Crete, passed it on to Procris, daughter of Cephalus. The dog was presented to Procris along with a javelin that could never miss. Ironically, Cephalus accidentally killed her while out hunting with Laelaps.

Cephalus inherited the dog and took it with him to Thebes, north of Athens, where a vicious fox was ravaging the countryside. The fox was so swift that it was destined never to be caught ~ yet Laelaps the hound was destined to catch whatever it pursued.

Off they went, almost faster than the eye could follow, the inescapable dog in pursuit of the uncatchable fox. At one moment the dog would seem to have its prey within grasp, but could only close its jaws on thin air as the fox raced ahead of it again. There could be no resolution of such a paradox, so Zeus turned them both to stone and placed the dog in the sky without the fox.

In the Chinese tradition, there is a remarkable analogy in the double meaning of the word Spirit and the word Sing (star). Shin and Sing, the Chinese words for soul and essence, are often interchangeable, as they are in the English language.

It is said that the fixed stars, and their domain, contain the essences or souls of matter ... a living soul is a higher essence of matter, and when evolved may also be called a star. These stars and essences become gods.

Like souls, stars are regarded as having divine attributes. Stars look down from regions of chaotic, violent, purity onto the world of humanity and influence the energies of humankind invisibly, yet most powerfully.

[sarcasticmirage]

Okay I can't find the post anymore, but a little while ago there was a poll about what animal coding Han Sooyoung had, and only four people said dragon, and yes I get it an aquatic animal, fits into the trio. And hsy is almost always figuratively knocking shit off counters, so cat works too... but have you considered i will die on this hill

novel spoilers!

So this all starts with one part in orv that has always been a sticking point for me: why is hsy's constellation ABFD?

It always seemed weird to me because kdj and yjh have both never had sponsors that were not part of the trio, and in a complete parallel kdj and hsy were both constellations who both had yjh as their incarnation (reader and writer only able to communicate through a character). So all this works... but where the hell does ABFD come in? To be honest, it makes more sense for 1864 hsy to be sponsored by secretive plotter, it ties the trio even closer thematically and even makes sense considering the contract that the two of them make in the early scenarios. So why ABFD?

The easiest answer is that it's meant to draw parallels between kdj and hsy, with both of them having similarities to Kim Namwoon, and at times acting as a villain or antagonist to the narrative. The other meta explanation is that if hsy had a strange sponsor or no sponsor at all, it would clue the audience in, that hsy is just as distinctly important to the world as kdj and yjh... and make it harder to convince the reader that she "totally didn't" write twsa. But there are easier ways to draw parallels that aren't as core to the story, and why of all constellations was abyssal black flame dragon chosen?

Because hsy, herself, is a Dragon...

Dragons are important to ORV, the most destructive thing within the star stream, and in some ways the only thing that could kill yjh, so what does it mean to be a dragon?

This conversation with the apocalypse dragon is the only real time that dragons as a thematic are brought up, and on the re-read, damn do most of these descriptors sound like hsy, or at least the perception, at this point, of the twsa author. The author is viewed as "the origin of evil" in ORV, they're the person who has made each of the scenarios and has caused all suffering in the characters lives. Hsy, similarly, when we first meet her is a villain, using the apostles to directly control canon and attack kdj as well as our whole primary cast.

However after hsy is revealed as the author of the novel and her story is told, we learn that she "was chained to restrictions" giving her only a few hours a day to be in control of her body and it was during this time that she was "the scenario's target of submission" made to make the scenarios, yes to save kdj, but also because she had always made them, without them already existing she could never have gone back to create them in the first place, but she is never given the chance to exist in the main story beyond this role. Before the end of the story, she is mainly seen by the narrative as either a villain, or someone forced to suffer (50 yrs later). Yjh is the protagonist of twsa. Kdj is the protagonist of ORV. As for hsy?

One of the most classical concepts in storytelling is that of a Hero, Damsel, and a Dragon.

The Hero embarks on a perilous journey to save the Damsel from imprisonment,

The Damsel is stuck alone and far away from those she loves,

The Dragon guards the Damsel to the point that she is trapped away from others.

These roles are even referenced in one of hsy and kdj's first conversations:

Kdj is not the Hero,

he's the Damsel.

Hsy is not the Damsel,

she's the Dragon.

[web-novel-polls]

ORV Constellations Tournament Submissions

Last Checked: November 28th, 2024 - Please check the original post for updates

Submissions Close Date: TBD

Rules:

Must be from ORV / Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint or an ORV-based OC. They do not have to be from canon 

One constellation per response. Submit as many responses as you want

Constellations listed within examples/questions are not already included nor do they have priority

If unsure about anything, just write "unsure" or something like that. Submissions won't be rejected if there's missing info; I just need something to call them at the very least 

Lying is allowed because it’s ORV, and I think dishonesty is a virtue (<-lying)

Tournament Tag: #orv constellations tournament

Submissions

(Major spoilers below!)

Cheok Jungyeong / Goryeo's First Sword 

Cheok Jungyeong gazed at the night sky through my eyes. I could feel the explosive emotions mixed in the silence. Cheok Jungyeong's rage and sadness. His grief… And… his decision.  [You can feel proud.]  Cheok Jungyeong spoke to me.  [Those who are at the highest point in this damn world are afraid of you.]  "…What is pride worth when I am going to die?"  [You won't die.]  They were just words, but they were words spoken by a constellation.  As if putting a buoy against fate, all the stories built by Cheok Jungyeong were rooted in my existence.  [I won't let you die.] - Omniscient Reader’s Viewpoint, Chapter 176

Nebula: Hongik

Submission 1: I LOVE HIM IDC I CAN'T EXPLAIN RIGHT NOW

Submission 2: The one who always has kimcom's back, from very early on. He puts himself on the line for those incarnations while others turn away 

Submission 3: he shows up to look broody, kill on Kim Dokja's command, then dip 

Director of the False Last Act 

Nebula: Kimcom / Kim Dokja’s Company 

Submission: This is my favorite OC!!!!!!! She's really cool and powerful and swag and is friends with Kim Dokja Company. She can command Yoo Joonghyuk to do her bidding and even was engaged to him once :) 

Galileo / Another One Bites the Dust

No propaganda submitted

Kim Dokja / Oldest Dream

Nebula: Kimcom / Kim Dokja’s Company

Submission: I love the concept of Oldest Dream so much that if I had a physical copy of ORV i would be biting the novel right now <3 

Lame Trickster

Nebula: Unknown

Submission: I just think the one legged swift horse stigma is kinda funny. Imagine you're basically like a god and your special god skill is you can run away super fast. You bestow your super skill onto the human that has earned your respect and favour (now he can run away super fast too). Amazing

Loki / Constellation Who Likes to Change Sex

Nebula: Asgard

Submission: [The constellation who likes to change sex is changing your sex] 

Master of Steel

Submission: a quiet supporter died also rather forgotten death. sacrificed himself for kimcom ;-; 

No Stranger to Love

Submission: He just wants to turn everything into a romance, and I think that's beautiful

Samyeongdang / Bald General of Justice

Nebula: Hongik 

Submission: haha. bald

Sigmund Freud / Discoverer of the Subconscious

Submission: it's funny what more could you want

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Surya / Supreme God of Light

Nebula: Vedas

Submission: he's so cool tbh, i hope his design will bang 

Uriel / Demonic Judge of Fire

Nebula: Eden 

Submission 1: she loves so much, so bright, so burning. 

Submission 2: I want to make sure my girl is in the brackets. She is really really cool and also very powerful. She also canonically mixed up the metaphor about calling followers "sheep" and she just brought sheep in Eden.

Submission 3: She's just like me fr 

Yoo Junghyuk / Secretive Plotter

Submission: 

does an outer god who was assumed to be a constellation for majority of plot counts? either way, he's one of the OGs four of kdj's channel

[honey-minded-hivemind]

Thinking about your WOF Morph and and Wolverine...

[...]

Upon seeing the large, muscular new dragon, the scales on Morph's face shift to rose pink for a few moments before they gets them under control again. 'Calm,' they think to themself. 'I am calm and amazing and better than this...' Morph tries to think of an insult for the dragon, but his mind thinks of other things.

His scales shift to pink again. The mystery dragon notices and his glare hardens. Oh, not good. ...Though it is kind of a pretty sight. Maybe its the way the mystery dragon's scales shimmer like a rainbow python in the sun (though they do look just a little bit dull...hm, definitely needs some sun time. With them. On their platform. Morph's partners need to look the best, after all), or the white scales that litter his underscales like constellations on a clear night.

'Ah, jeez...I'm hooked,' Morph realizes. 'I'm hooked on a piece of trash that abandoned his egg. He doesn't deserve me. I should douse his face in venom for leaving the poor baby...then maybe turn those pretty scales into a rug. A really weird rug.'

Though part of them wanted this mystery guy around.

Forever.

[...]

Something tells me Morph isn't only a platonic yan but also a romantic yan

- 🧊

Yep. They definitely are. And so is Wolverine, once he gets attached. Surprise, those two get to know each other, raise little egg/newly hatched Reader together (because neither one is giving giving up) amd when it turns out Wolverine (Woebringer is his NightWing name) didn't abandon Reader but did an elaborate plot to save the from death incarnate, the NightWing island home, well... let's just say Queen Morph (Magnificent is their RainWing name) falls in love with him.

They get to discover things about each other, meet each other's partner/s, eat fruit, sleep whenever they need it, and don't have many worries... It's all pretty good, especially as Woebringer is a favored dragon of Queen Magnificent, Queen Magnificent gets another partner and bodyguard and friend all in one, amd they both get a cute little ray of moonlight, Reader!

But... everyone knows not to mess with the queen's spouses, or there will be dangerous, sometimes deadly, consequences... And everyone knows how the queen's new... bodyguard... acts around them, not letting anyone near unless the Queen explicitly says so...

Just DO NOT hurt their egg, or mess with it, or even speak about it, unless the queen asks you to say how lovely it is amd how lucky everyone is to be near it. Don't ever, and they mean EVER, mess with the dragonet who comes out, or the entire RainWing (and possibly NightWing) royal family/ies will rain acid and fire on your head...

(Yep. They got it bad for each other, plus dragon Storm, amd dragon Hank, amd maybe one of the other adult dragons? Anyone except Victor, as he's Logan's brother, so if he were part of Queen Morph's partners, they simply wouldn't get with his own brother. Because no. That woukd be gross, and I don't write that...)

[bookwyrminspiration]

omg i was anon and it IS orv how'd you guess!! anyways its so incredibly quilcoded you NEED to read it like. yesterday. its so good

firstly!! you would actually rlly adore kim dokja he's a complete fucking loser. picking him up kicking him around like a soccer ball do you catch my drift. he HATES himself he likes reading trashy novels he's concerningly relatable. also you could ship him with anyone if you tried hard enough or he could definitely be aroace if you squint. choice is yours the world is your oyster. also he canonically has a very funny kink that the novel likes to bring up over and over again. like i said. loser

(tbh i think youd also really be partial to yoo joonghyuk or one of the side characters but. idk thats up to you to decide. when you fucking read it)

secondly! the worldbuilding quil you would go HAM on the worldbuilding there's soooo much to explore with the star stream and constellations vs incarnations and its just SOOO insane. ugh i dont wanna spoil a lot but theres just so many different THINGS and it makes me a little bit feral

THIRDLY found family. thats it thats the post. they are all so unbearably lonely and they all find each other and they LOVE EACH OTHER and contrary to kim dokja's opinion they love him too and its just so fucking. ugh. all of their dynamics. (the kids especially get to me they are SO funny and stupid. siblingcoded as fuck)

also would it help if i tell you that there is quite literally no romance in this book! which is kind of unheard of for power fantasy novels! (ok there is like one side couple but its slow burn af and they take forever to get together and theyre rlly cute anyway but i digress)

there's mpreg. will not elaborate but it seems like youd fuck with it

furthermore!! idk the overarching themes......... story inside a story the inherent and unconditional love of a reader for said story reader vs writer vs protagonist OHHH love letter to stories themselves. actually. fuck man the feelings

its rlly stupid sometimes. actual crack. then it kicks you in the balls and makes you feel emotions you never knew you had before

but yeah pls read it!! i will convince you even more if necessary. you need to get in on this before 2025 at the very least bc there is an anime coming out and you have to be able to say you were here before that to assert dominance. anyways

(also WHEN you read it bc you will. pls livetweet in my inbox i love reactions its a fucking ride)

Not only was I right that it was orv, but I was also correct that it was you, Roshan. Though I didn't write that down, so you'll just have to trust me

I do have some understanding of the story beyond this because an irl of mine was reccing it a couple weeks ago, but from that it's also my understanding that learning anything about the story prior will not help me going in. it simply defies explanation and I just gotta read it

I must say though, you do know the right things to say. I LOVE stories about stories I LOVE meta I LOVE love letters to stories! I LOVE worldbuilding I LOVE found family. i LOVE wet rag guys, sopping on the floor pathetic loser men. and no romance!!! that's not to say any romance is bad, it's just nice to have a break sometimes

"there's mpreg. will not elaborate but it seems like youd fuck with it" can. can I confess something real quick. i deadass almost included mpreg in the "keys to get quil to read something." but then I was like no i shant, even though it's true. and then you said it yourself anyway! because it seems like i'd fuck with it! well i DO and I WILL. mpreg is like an automatic read for me. don't worry about that

OKAY okay i will read. where. where do I read it. i've heard of both a manga and a webcomic...maybe..? which should I go with and where should I find it. I am at your command 🫡

(i will probably liveblog instead of directly in ur inbox but maybe i'll do both)

[aikoiya]

LoZ - Ganondorf's Sexual Profile

MDNI

I see most of the Ganons as having a similar basic personality with differences based on their personal life experiences.

CoH, OoT, TP, & WW Ganondorf are the same Ganondorf but at different stages of his life & thus, exhibits different levels of maturity based on the external influences in his life.

Similarly, FSA & HW Ganondorf are likewise the same Dorf.

Tell me if you think my assessments are accurate or not.

For a non-sexual profile, go to Ganondorf's Characterization Profile.

Also, please keep in mind that these ideas are all free to use.

LoZ Linked Universe Masterlist

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I've just come up with nicknames for the various Ganondorfs in a way reminiscent of Linked Universe.

FS = Sloth

CoH = Ambition (because he's just a kid & is mostly just a rude little brat, so he isn't represented by a sin here)

OoT = Greed

TP = Pride

WW = Envy

FSA = Gluttony (Pre-HW Lust)

HW = Lust or Lech (though, the only ones able to call him the second one are other Gdorfs)

TotK = Wrath

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I actually theorize that a new Gerudo-born incarnation of Demise's hatred is born every 2,000-10,000 years. If true, then by that logic, it means that around 16,000-50,000 years have passed between Skyward Sword & Tears of the Kingdom's presents.

However, I don't think that a Gerudo male still being alive really affects when another will be born. More so, it happens on a schedule. So, it's actually very possible for 2 Gerudo males to be alive at the same time.

Now, Gerudo males are still born every century between, right on schedule. They're just lucky enough to not be Demise's grudgemental stank reborn.

One thing of interest; these Gerudo males are always born on the 12th, though the month tends to change.

The Gerudo males are referred to as Centennial Kings or Mafzīnànkha Voe'attàren. However, those born of Demise's hatred these days are known as the Myriennial Tyrants or Mafzī'àlfankha Sûlfetànïren. They are also often referred to as the Vōton al’Khinzīr’è or Sons of the Boar as they are always born on February the 12th, under the sign of the Boar Constellation. Though, it took a very long time to figure that one out considering there's only been, like, 3 max.

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Also, to keep track of each Gerudo King, they are given a birth name & a King Name. Their King Name is a descriptor of when & where they were born.

However, every Gerudo King has the same family name: Drāgamīr. From the Gerudan root words, Drāga meaning noble dragon, & Mīr meaning general or ruler. This means that Drāgamīr can be translated into draconian general or tyrant.

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Kinks:

Fairly Consistent:

Small Tusks - I just sorta headcanon that male Gerudo generally have small, not obvious tusks & even smaller upper canines. This leads to them having very slight underbites.

Straight or Close To It - Just, generally prefers biological women, no matter the iteration. Both romantically & sexually. Will take no substitutions. Even when he does have sex with men, it's generally as a humiliation or dominance tactic as per the old custom of Feminizing the Enemy. As a result, most Gdorfs don't fuck with men often.

Except for Lust, he's borderline bisexual.

Feminizing the Enemy - A sexual war crime where someone rapes their enemy to exert dominance over them or to just outright humiliate them. Used to be a fairly common tactic for the Gerudo back before they stopped thieving. The Vaien (women) especially did this partially as a means to continue the Gerudo race.

In fact, way back when, most Gerudo were fathered by enemies of the tribe or male concubines which are foreign men enslaved to act as studs. As such, not many Gdorfs will see anything wrong with it.

(This theory is mostly based on the reactions of several Hyruleans, not just Hylians either. Several men in Castle Town react, not with derision, but rather abject fear at the mere sight of a Gerudo Vai. These reactions were visceral. Not the typical reaction one might have towards simple bandits. This showcased a fear for the loss of something important. Also, keep in mind that the Gerudo Fortress has 6 very large cells. Large enough to fit many prisoners. Why would they need such cells if they had no purpose? And also keep in mind that when caught as a child, Link is toss off the bridge into the river below. But when caught as a teenager, he's instead thrown into a cell. Now, I don't know how to explain it away without being disparaging, but in the Japanese text, the Gossip Stone at the Temple of Time says that ゲル ド族は時々ハイラルの町にボーイハント しに来る, which translates to "The Gerudo sometimes come to Hyrule Castle town to go boy hunting." Which is different to searching for boyfriends. All I'm saying is, the optics aren't looking good.)

Anyway, Greed, Envy, Gluttony, & Wrath only seem to do this to their female enemies. This was always considered a boon as a Voe could sire many Vaivïn in very little time. So, in times when Kōme & Kotake were in charge, any foreign women that a Gdorf bred against her will were commonly brought back to base, where she'd be imprisoned. If she turned out to be pregnant, they would tend to her until the child was born, & if the Gdorf took a liking to her, he could keep her as one of his toys.

However, a Darling who has experienced such trauma personally might be able to provide him with a different perspective on the subject. Especially if he's at a point where he deeply respects & trusts her. It doesn't negate his crimes, but it does allow him to better understand that these things are not okay.

It wasn't until the Gerudo had a legitimate alliance with Hyrule that they were able to discontinue the practice entirely.

Yandere - Very possessive & can definitely be obsessive. However, to what degree & how evident his yandere traits are tends to vary between iterations. However, whenever he's classified as a "soft" yandere, he becomes far less likely to punish his Darling with physical pain & more likely to either punish her by holding blackmail over her head, by going after her loved ones, or via pleasure & overstimulation. It depends on the "crime." At the same time, that doesn't mean that he won't hurt her as punishment, just that he's much less likely to do so.

However, generally speaking, he'll almost always be very manipulative with her. Or, at least he'd try to.

Paradoxically, he'd actually find a woman who he couldn't manipulate, very attractive.

What can I say, he likes a challenge.

Manipulative - He's just a naturally cunning & manipulative individual with very little qualms with using others for his own gain. He also finds it easy to betray those he sees as less than him. He can even be borderline Shang Tsun (Mortal Kombat) depending on the version of him.

Control Freak - Depending on his iteration, he can have control issues. Part of this is due to having felt powerless as a child as his mothers tended to have him on a short leash.

Naturally Deceptive - A liar. He falls into the role of deceiver naturally & with great ease.

Naturally Dominant - Due to the societal pressures placed upon him at a young age as the Centennial King, he tries to project dominance at all times, especially when near his subjects.

King Alone - Initially doesn't ever intend to marry as that would mean sharing his power. As such, he instead has many concubines to attend to his needs.

However, this changes when he finds his Darling. At least, most of the time.

Machismo vs Caballerismo - Tends to originally classify as misapplied Machismo, meaning aggressive & overly macho. Though, even when he is primarily misapplied Machismo, he is very much not chauvinistic or sexist due to how he grew up, except against weak women. He hates weak women. At the same time, he also isn't chivalrous either. However, real, genuine love & care tends to soften him & he begins to exhibit more correctly-applied Machismo (meaning to project the features of a man, specifically stoicism, strong, dominant, resiliant, cool, virile, ect), as well as Caballerismo tendencies (such as nurturing, being family-oriented, protective, & chivalrous).

Said correctly-used Machismo will eventually become his new public disposition, thus becoming truly masculine.

However, his newly acquired Caballerismo tendencies will generally only come out around those he cares about.

Struggles With His Masculinity - Due to being raised by all women & no other men besides concubini (plural of concubinus; defined as male concubines) being allowed in, Gdorf really only had those very women's understanding of what being a man was & the concubini for examples.

It also doesn't really help that his mothers tend to encourage the more negative behaviors most commonly associated with men.

However, despite this less than ideal situation, he tends to be expected to be this pillar of masculinity for his community without much decent direction, which tends to put a lot of stress on him, especially in his early years. As such, his masculinity is actually pretty fragile & only gets marginally stronger with experience if he never gets better role models.

Even amongst his own race, he is always considered as "other" due to being a male & this results in him feeling extremely alienated as he is always forced to become innately aware of the fact that the Vaien (women) of his tribe tend to talk about & treat men as almost an entirely different, even alien, species.

He was also generally barred from visiting the more populated parts of the Gerudo settlements until after all the Vaivïn (girls) below 18 had been lain down for bed. This way, none of the Vaivïn ever saw him, as per the Gerudo's custom.

However, this results in him never really interacting with other children his age, which results in him being ill-socialized. At least, until he himself had reached 18 as well, but the sudden introduction to peers without any experience with them tends to cause him to close off from them.

In this way, he doesn't really understand what being a man actually means. Though, he manages to hide the fact that he's been absolutely starved of positive male role models, potential father figures, & even male peers, rather well. However, when this fact does show itself, the reality & obviousness of it tends to be staggering; glaring even.

Generally, it just shows itself in little ways. Like not knowing how to shake hands with a firm grip properly while maintaining eye contact or how to be strong & firm, but also gentle at the same time. Or how to be competitive in a lighthearted & friendly way while not letting pride sour things. Or how to not take certain things to heart. How to be resilient in character & not just in body.

It also shows itself in how he feels the need to gain female attention. How he's become codependent of the women around him, specifically depending upon his mothers' approval in order to feel validated.

And when he realizes that his basically non-existant understanding of manhood has been made apparent to someone, he becomes embarrassed & ashamed, then aggressive.

Secretly Insecure - Hides it extremely well.

Breast Man - Don't get him wrong. He enjoys flared hips, a plump ass, & shapely legs too & will never say no to them, but he just can't help how much he loves a soft, pillowy bust. Not even just sexually either.

Sometimes when he's overwhelmed, stressed, or just frustrated, he likes to hold his Darling around the waist & rest his head on her chest with her in his lap & drown everything out.

Part of it has to do with hearing her heartbeat, which helps to ground him in the moment with another part just being the smell of her skin. Not to mention the feel of her skin surrounding him. He most especially loves the smell when she's pregnant or still breastfeeding. The scent of milk & and motherhood, along with her natural smell, is quite soothing. Add to that the feel of her warmth & her closeness & it's something that he finds very comforting.

Especially appreciates it if she begins to pet his head, run her fingers through his hair, or sing quietly to him. It very much relaxes him & may just end up causing him to fall asleep buried in her bosom.

He typically doesn't even mind if she starts talking to him about her day. It's nice to listen to her chatter because it can help to distract him from his own stressors. Though, if he's feeling particularly overstimulated & isn’t in the right state of mind for talk, he 'll grunt or grumble or lightly nip (without any real bite) at her skin to showcase his displeasure. I also think that he'd be particularly appreciative of a Darling who notices & acquiesces.

Part of it also has to do with a general fascination because not many Gerudo Vaien have large busts. A shapely lower-half, absolutely, but not very busty.

Now, there's definitely lust to his attraction to breasts, I'm just saying that there's more to it than that is all.

Naturally Dominant - Due to the societal pressures placed upon him at a young age as the Centennial King, he tries to project dominance at all times, especially when near his subjects.

Flirty & Charming - Part of this is connected to being manipulative. He sees what he wants & will get it by whatever means necessary. Even if it means flirting with the enemy.

Even the straight Dorfs, if he senses that a male enemy can be manipulated in such a way, is more than willing to go that route even if he silently degrades them for their predilections.

Endearment Usage - Most Gdorfs are pretty frugal with handing out nicknames & endearments unless he legitimately cares about them.

But if he does, then he very much likes giving his beloved nicknames.

Extremely Monogamous - The idea of cheating on someone he legit cares about would leave him shocked & aghast. This is due to the Gerudo just being an extremely romantically exclusive & monogamous people in regards to their hearts. Romance is considered something almost entirely separate from, yet still connected to, sex & the Gerudo, just as a people, are very cautious with their hearts. They also, as a culture, value fidelity.

Like, to the point where infidelity is considered a serious taboo. Even a crime punishable by death.

Amazon Chaser - A number loves it when he's beaten by a woman, but not all of them. However, fighting him to a stalemate? That almost always catches his attention. He loves that. Especially if she exhibits tremendous skill during their fight.

Now, being beaten consistently will definitely chafe him, but the occasional win? That's hot!

He also loves to watch his Darling take down those who challenge her, proving her right to be at his side. Finds it excessively sexy.

However, in the worst case scenario, this, plus his yandere tendencies when added to a woman who does manage to defeat him in battle consistently, can result in extreme ambivalence, specifically abheroticism, which is to both hate & lust after. This can cause a lot of toxic desires revolving around dominance & possession, which can lead to a deepening of his yandere-ness until he eventually reaches the yandere event horizon. Meaning, he goes full crazy pants.

- Dextrophile - Competency is hot. Displays of talent or competency is an immediate head-turner for him.

Goes hand-in-hand with being an Amazon Chaser.

One of very few things that literally every Dorf has in common.

Loves Begging - All of them enjoy it to a degree. Just comes with being an evil bastard. But Pride has a serious problem. He likes it too much. He especially enjoys lording over his conquests.

Yet, when the tables are turned, he begs so prettily.

Manhandler - Bastard's huge. You know that he uses it to his advantage, too. He'll hold his lovers down or hold them in the air as he ducks them.

Breeder Balls - And with the kink to go with them. No one will convince me otherwise. Just generally has macroorchidism & hyperspermia, but with an unusually high sperm count, even compared to one without hyperspermia. This is thought to be a blessing from Vah Sāqmàla, being a Gerudo goddess of vivifatility (pertaining to both virility & fertility).

Very few Voen (men) other than the Centennial King are bequeathed with this feature as it wasn't a common thing for Voen before the female-only curse, which theologians theorize to be part of Vah Gela's boon. Which, would make a degree of sense considering Vah Gela is said to have been one of Vah Sāqmàla's many daughters.

However, every Centennial King has it.

This is why the condition is often referred to as Mùta Vallah'jï Shôhxàl (Sex Goddess's Divine Favor).

Long Ejaculation Times - His beast form is a boar after all.

Power Dynamics - Naturally dominant & enjoys asserting himself over others. However, he has a secret submissive streak &, depending on which Gdorf, he'll either be initially uncomfortable with it, embrace it, or reject it entirely.

Thinks that watching his Darling ride him is a thing of true beauty.

Dirty Talker - The mouths on certain Gdorfs can be downright filthy at times.

Partner Pleaser - Most Gdorfs take great pride in his abilities as a lover & won't be satisfied with a lay unless his partner has cum at least twice, if not thrice. That isn't to say that that's all the rounds he can go for. Rather, it's what each one requires before he allows himself to cum even once. Though, when it's just anyone, it's less about being a kind lover & more so for self-satisfaction & to exert control over them. A desire to watch his lover writhe as they come undone due to his ministrations.

Praise/Degradation - Depends on the Gdorf & the situation.

Body Worship - Always initially just receiving cock worship, as it really strokes his ego & makes him feel like a god. However, if he loves his Darling, he'll become an avid giver as well.

Marking Kink - Loves it when his Vai leaves marks on his body & likewise loves to see his own marks on hers. However, if a Voe does it, he'll see it as an act of defiance & an attempt to dominate him. Thus, it'll result in him seeing red & possibly biting a literal chunk out of the offender before spitting it out like trash.

Breeding & Pregnancy Kink - Loves completing inside his partners & hates having to pull out before cumming. However, it's mostly about the feel for him until he's found his Darling.

Afterwards, it becomes a complex mix of wanting to claim her as his in the most intimate place possible & wanting to have her carry his heirs. If he's not careful, he could overstimulate them both with how feral it can make him.

Master Pussy-Eater - I mean, is it really surprising? With time & experience, his skill at bringing women to nirvana is top notch. Though, when he does it to his Darling, he'll have a tendency to get pussy-drunk & could accidentally overstimulate her.

Tsundere Peggee - Would like it a lot when his woman uses his ass (though only his Vai), but initially believes that he wouldn't & would be deeply opposed to trying in most situations, seeing it as a knock at his masculinity. Would only consider it in certain situations. Even after trying it, he'd try to deny how much he enjoys it & it would take time to get him to admit to it. That doesn't mean he prefers it that way. Rather, it's just another fun option for play.

Snarls When He Cums If It's Really Good - Nuff said.

Sealing Balls - Tends to get blue balls something fierce after being sealed away for a long time. As such, it isn't uncommon for him to perform a bit of classic piracy.

Best Match - A strong, honest, capable woman who (quietly) demands respect, sees past all his crap, & doesn't believe his lies, while managing to be respectful at the same time, but also doesn't try to change or "reform" him. Holds him accountable & wont sugarcoat things. A woman who'll enforce rules & lines that she will not allow to be crossed between them if he wants their relationship to continue, but will also respect the boundaries that he puts in place. Who can counter all his attempts to control or manipulate her, whether consciously or subconsciously. Both humble, yet confident & proud in her own, not egotistical way. And, despite himself, he'd be deeply attracted to one with strong maternal instincts. Because some buried part of him desires a family who will love him unconditionally.

He'd be unprepared for someone so direct & unaffected by his tricks. Especially someone able to unbalance him. In this way, he would find himself charmed. These things will cause him to respect her in a way that he doesn't many others.

Which, respect is extremely important for him in any relationship. If he respects you, he is far less likely to betray you. It's even more important for a Darling to have his respect in lives where he's NPD or even just borderline NPD.

He also just very much likes 'em in one of 2 extremes: feisty badass & elegant, yet deceptively lethal badass.

Likes To See Her Angry - Thinks she looks gorgeous with that fire in her eyes. So, he very much enjoys teasing, picking on, & bickering with her.

He also just generally enjoys a good verbal duel of wits.

Wants To Be Romanced - Despite being the dominant sort, he actually really wants to be romanced. He'd legitimately melt inside if a woman tried to woo, romance, or court him. Especially if she does so using things she's learned about his interests.

Not Used To Genuineness - Most gifts he's been given throughout his lives were frivolous & superficial. Just extravagant things that look nice, but really serve no purpose. So, when given something that he truly likes or legitimately interests him or has meaning to him personally, he's both shocked & touched, but also confused. Something high-quality & handmade with care will especially make his heart flutter. It's the effort put in.

Love Language - Gift-giving & physical affection. Initially, most of his gifts will likewise be frivolous & extravagant, but the first time he gets a heartfelt gift from his Darling, he'll honestly feel outdone & will endeavor to improve his gift-giving skills. He wants her to feel every bit as touched by his gifts as he is touched by hers.

Another important one for him is time spent together, though.

Touch Starved - Is initially uncomfortable & unused to positive non-sexual physical affection, but upon getting used to it, begins to crave it like air. Loves having his hair touched or pulled or brushed or his scalp massaged or scratched.

Also, bathing each other is actually an important Gerudo bonding experience for married couples. For Gdorf, it's a very vulnerable & tender time. Is initially defensive & guarded when first doing so with his wife, but will gently unfurl his grip around his heart over time & bare it to her willingly.

He's actually a very warm & tender lover with his beloved wife. Is also a natural romantic at heart, but tries to keep this fact hidden & deeply buried. Loves it when his lover & him brush each other's hair. It's incredibly intimate to him as he takes his overall appearance very seriously. Will even let a Darling with hair-styling skills style his hair.

Actually, really loves his hair or head being touched, though he won't allow it unless he trusts her. But when he does & the trust is 100%, massage his head & he may just drift off to sleep in his lover's arms.

Casual Physical Affection - When near his lover & the 2 are close, he naturally draws close to her & rests his hand on her hip or shoulder or lower back. Sometimes even just bumping his hip against hers. Enjoys tilting her chin up as he dips his head down to capture her lips in a sweet kiss.

Cuddle-Bug - Craves closeness. Often wraps his arms around his lover & even curls around her protectively in his sleep. Face pressed into her neck, shoulder, or hair. Sometimes drools in his sleep. Snores, but quietly. Occasionally snorts, but not often.

Loves Kisses & Casual Affection - He often leans down to kiss his lover & thinks that her standing on her toes to meet his lips is absolutely adorable. Will also pick her up by her waist or hold her under the ass or bridal style to do so.

Reciprocal Ownership - Initially, he is the type to want to own people, yet not be owned himself. Until he falls in love. At which point, he takes great pride in being claimed or in any way acknowledged as being hers.

Wears her marks with pride.

Often uses "my" to refer to her & might become inwardly flustered initially if she refers to him in the same way.

FS (Sloth) Specifically:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea.

However, it's important to note that Sloth is who all the other Ganondorfs were named after. But they aren't his reincarnations. My hc is that Kōme & Kotake were his pupils & he was a true follower of Demise & they named the vessel of Demise's hatred after him in his honor.

The Nerdy Incel - This man's rizz levels are zero. And while he could charm a woman, he's much too much of a creep for it to stick for longer than a one-night stand.

CoH (Ambition) Specifically:

NONE, he's a kid! Leave the boy alone in this regard or I'll break your knees!

OoT (Greed) Specifically:

Keep in mind that I see him as being 19-20 at the start of OoT & 26-27 at the end of it.

Tsundere - Wants a genuine connection, but denies it. It isn't that he thinks he doesn't deserve it; in fact there isn't much that he believes he doesn't deserve. However, his mothers, & thus he himself, have convinced him that he doesn't need one beyond Kōme & Kotake. As such, when he has a genuine crush on a woman, he tends to come off as abrasive & a jerk.

Social Darwinist - The Gerudo tended to still live by a very Might Makes Right philosophy back then & one part of that was the concept of "to the victor goes the spoils."

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact a secret, which results in him being tsundere. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis through the eyes. Can also be quite the tease.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. In terms of things, this tends to include music sheets, his horse, & books, especially books revolving around cultural anthropology, mythology, & magical practice.

Manipulative & Eliminating Yandere - Gets very jealous & even kinda needy. Wants to be the center of his Darling's attentions & will do damn near whatever it takes to do so. Will take out anyone he thinks might be trying to take his Darling from him.

Secretly Wants To Be Dominated (but only sometimes) - If a woman can kick his ass, instant erection. Literal heart-eyes mofo! Despite being a tsundere, he will quietly crush on her afterwards.

Though, being beaten all-the-time would just make him angry & his insecurity swell. It only needs to be once.

However, it's Gerudo custom that if a ruler is beaten by a member of the opposite sex (so long as they are the relatively same age), they are to be the ruler's spouse. In the old days, the Gerudo ruler was expected to make that happen by whatever means necessary. (This tradition also holds true for the common Gerudo, though to a lesser degree.)

In many ways, as soon as she knocks him on his ass, he mentally begins referring her as his wife or his queen.

Power Dynamics - Naturally dominant & initially uncomfortable with letting go of control. He'd have to be very close to his Darling to allow that, but much like how being dominated can be relieving & destressing for CEOs, so too can it be for Greed. Will absolutely melt when dommed. That isn't to say that he doesn't enjoy being dominant &, in fact, he very much likes it, but the occasional change of pace is also very much appreciated.

Somnophile - Actually, very much enjoys watching her sleep. He's also prone to admiring her face as she dozes. Will kiss her face sweetly & tuck hair behind her ear & nuzzle her face or neck. However, he'll only do this sort of thing after they're married.

If she wakes, she'll likely catch quite the tender & fond expression on his face. However, he's tsundere af & will get flustered at having been caught like that. He might also get grumpy about it, but he isn't actually angry. Just embarrassed.

He'll refuse to fuck her while she sleeps unless he gets the idea that she'd be amenable to the idea. Though, he'll also refuse to bring up the idea himself due to being both stubborn & embarrassed.

As such, there will be times when she might wake up to find him masterbating beside her with lusty yet sweet praise, whispering past his lips like a prayer. Which, if she reveals that she's awake at that moment, will leave the man absolutely mortified & he may just lock himself away for a while.

However, if he's ever given the idea that she wouldn't mind or might even think the idea hot, Greed will have zero issue with the idea of having sex with her while she's asleep or receiving pleasure as he himself slumbers. In fact, when giving, he enjoys challenging himself to see how long he can breed her without waking her fully. Seeing it as a victory if he manages to get them both to the finish without waking her. (He tends to be extra full of himself & cocky for the rest of the day afterwards. A slight mischievous streak will also have him not mentioning it.)

He'll also whisper some of the sweetest, most honest praises you've ever heard into her ear as he gently breeds her. Unfortunately, if he happens to wake her, he'll kind of panic & stop, even pulling out & trying to hide the fact that he'd done so. And that's even after having gotten direct & open consent. Though only in the beginning. It'll take him time to fully realize that it's okay & even then, he's likely to keep flinching at first for a while.

After he's gotten adjusted, then accidently waking her, he'll stop & wait for her consent to continue as she comes to. If he's told to stop, he'll get pouty, but he'll acquiesce. However, if she tells him to keep going, he’ll do so… hesitantly, before eventually relaxing. Though, whatever praise he'll give won’t come out quite as raw as while she was asleep.

One great, if somewhat cruel, way to get him to stop that is by pretending she’s still asleep & memorizing everything he says, then the next morning, use those same words to praise him back.

He'll be shocked & sputter, but she should not give him a direct answer unless he asks a direct question about it. However, she should make it clear through expressions & euphemisms that she enjoyed it. Not to mention, kisses (deep & passionate, yet filled with love) of affirmation as a greeting for the day while she holds his face tenderly. Like he's sincerely the most precious treasure she's ever laid eyes on. This, followed by coquettish behavior throughout the day, will reassure him without pressuring him, that it's okay & that it's very encouraged. Which will allow him to be less thorny & embarrassed by it.

And when receiving, he'll often see it as the most beautiful sight & the absolute best way to wake up. However, he'll try to pretend that he's still asleep.

After that, I'd he realizes that she's woken during intercourse, he'll, unfortunately, begin to pull back on the open tenderness, but will replace it with an edge of seduction.

Will not breed her in her sleep unless she's given him the cues.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Greed singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. Which, BTW, I think he'd have a naturally operatic voice.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances, specifically in this situation, the more sexual ones. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Greed has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

TP (Pride) Specifically:

Remember that this is the Child Timeline where he was ratted out by a pair of children & was discovered to be treacherous.

However, I tend to believe that the Hyrule King didn't initially believe Link or Zelda &, instead, sent Impa to investigate in an attempt to assuage his daughter's paranoia & prove that her & her new friend were just worrying over nothing.

He didn't expect for Impa to actually turn up evidence of a legitimate coup.

Which, keep in mind that unless Zelda specifically sent Link back to before he even woke up in his treehouse, then at the very least, Greed had still sent Ghoma to infest the Deku Tree, which resulted in him dying.

And depending on whether or not the same is true of his attempts to attain the other Spiritual Stones, then there'd be eye witness testimony to Greed's treachery. Hell, Darunia himself said that Ganondorf told him to "give me the Spiritual Stone! Only then will I open the cave for you!" And, keep in mind that, according to Darunia, the king is his Sworn Brother. So, even though I don't think that the king would believe a couple of kids, he'd likely believe the word of his own friend. Which, all Link would have to do would be to tell the king to "ask Darunia." And, bringing up Ruto could also help, because even though she too was a child, the fact that yet someone else was insisting that Greed was after their Spiritual Stone, would only further cement his suspicions. Hell, the mere fact that Link has the Kokiri Emerald should at least raise a couple of red flags!

And the fact that Greed was specifically after the Spiritual Stones, the keys to accessing a holy relic of the country that he was supposedly trying to form some sort of alliance with, would raise some freaking alarm bells, I'd think!

As a result, the king likely kept the fact that the investigation was prompted by a couple of children quiet as not only would it reflect badly upon the Royal Family for not having investigated until then, but it'd paint a target on both the kids' backs.

As such, no one, not even Pride, actually knows that it was the children that snitched on him. He knows that the princess didn't like him & he assumes that the boy in green was one of her little friends, but thinking that it was them would most likely be a bit of a logical leap for him regardless of whether it was true or not. Part of the reason that he betrayed Zant is due to the mistaken belief that someone close to him betrayed him. As a result, he became extremely paranoid of those working under him.

Anyway, after Greed began to suspect that the jig was up, he escaped before he could be caught. This resulted in a 7 year long war (which is why Pride has longer hair during the execution scene). At the end of those, Link defeated him in battle & took him to face his crimes.

After Greed was sealed in the Twilight Realm, his ardent Gerudo followers (excluding Kōme & Kotake) were all executed while the rest were banished. (Which leads into Gluttony.)

However, he actually isn't aware that the rest of the Gerudo were banished & legitimately believes that they were all killed & thus he is the only Gerudo left. And the state of the once Spirit Temple does not help in any way.

So, despite having not truly cared for them, he's still extremely angry about the believed genocide.

Will Fuck Both Women & Men Whenever - However, he really only finds women to be attractive. He's mostly indifferent to men & generally only fucks men to humiliate them & prove his dominance. It's sort of an expression of how he thinks that he can do anything due to having the blessing of a goddess. So, while he's not attracted to men, he's turned on by their humiliation & gets a bit of a high from dominating his enemies.

Rapist - Very much not a good man & will take what he wants from whoever he desires. A cereal Feminizer of the Enemy. While other Gdorfs do this too, it's mostly seen as just business for them. But Pride has a legit sadistic streak about it.

Worse yet, he'll mock his victims. Especially men whose bodies react despite not wanting it.

So, yeah. Horrible dude.

Isolating & Eliminating Yandere - Due to having been just sort of given the Triforce of Power even though he hadn't gotten it in this timeline, he's gotten a huge ego boost & doesn't take rejection well. In many ways, he sees himself as being chosen by Din & rightful king of Hyrule because of it. This is what spawned his God Complex.

Much like all Gdorfs, he's also very selfish & greedy, wanting his Darling all to himself. It's just to the extreme here. Insanely possessive & jealous. Will punish his Darling physically if he believes she's defied him in any way. Seeks to isolate her from those around her. I can't reiterate more how extremely possessive & jealous this man is. As such, he'll have anyone he views as a threat to his relationship with her, eliminated.

And, in his sadism, if he believes this individual to be someone Darling cares about, he's not opposed to making their death a spectacle.

The Ganondorf most likely to imprison his Beloved in a tower & rape her at his leisure.

Perverted - Not even secretly at this point. Just downright lecherous to the point of chauvinism & doesn't even try to hide it. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis via the eyes. Makes some downright obscene comments sometimes.

Can honestly be very lewd & crass.

Objectifier - Especially if she's Hylian or Sheikah/Yiga. In such situations, it even takes on a feeling of racial fetishization. Takes simple joy in humiliating her.

Most likely to dress her up all pretty & parade her around as a sort of living trophy.

Will often nibble the tip of his prize's pointed ear rather mockingly if she's Hylian/Sheikah. He's honestly weirdly obsessed with them.

Endearment User - However, he tends to do so in objectifying, possessive, or mocking ways.

Will often refer to a woman that he's made into a concubine as Bensinï, Benzenï, Kinzanï, all meaning "my treasure." Vesginï to mean "my jewel." Hiahxàlnï, meaning "my prize." Làba or Làbanï, translating to "toy/plaything" or "my toy/plaything." Ghànj or Ghànjnï, for "pet" or "my pet." Morizī, "pretty one."

Or, in the case of Darling being a Hylian or Sheikah, he will regularly use Bensïrénï, which refers to the spoils of war or thievery, thereby giving it a meaning similar to "my trophy."

And, surprisingly, Tzhamdnï, translating to "my sheath." Which, if this was said in privacy, whispered in the ear, or even just said with affection, then it'd take on a very sweet & wholesome meaning. As it can mean something similar to Baynï or Amïnq'tonï, which mean "my home" or "my sanctuary or safe place." Though, while whispering can still have that sort of feel, the act of making it secretive, will cause the endearment to be edged with seduction or promise.

However, because this Gdorf calls her such out loud regardless of someone being present, with an abundance of smugness, & very little tenderness. It actually causes it to take on the more literal & euphemistic meaning due to Tzhamd also being frequently used to refer to a woman's cooch. As such, his use of it would be considered outrageously lewd, very bold, & even just downright shameless to a Gerudo listener.

Strong, But Not Too Strong Women - It's easiest to get his attention if a woman nearly beats him, but not to such a degree that he feels insecure in his position as strongest. If she's able to literally beat him from the beginning, then that'll just get him angry & give him a sort of psychosexual hate-on for her, thus causing him to desire to imprison her & punish her for her insolence.

Possibly even making her his prized concubine. Not even respecting her enough to put a ring on that finger despite the custom that says he should marry her. The reason being that he's become extremely narcissistic & prideful of his power that he openly disregards his people's customs.

At the same time, if she manages to turn the tables on him to such a degree that she is able to imprison him & use him as her personal fuck toy, there will be a part of him that'll marvel & be enthralled by her. Especially if she generally treats him fairly when not having sex. It actually doesn't take long for him to submit & become her loyal concubinus (male concubine) in such a case.

In many ways, he's much like a giant, spicy cat in need of socialization. He butts his head into his mistress' hand like one too. (Though, the grandma rollers have got to go.)

However, it'll take quite a lot longer for him to be able to call her Mistress.

There will definitely eventually be some Stockholm going on for him though as he'll eventually take to referring to her possessively.

Such as "my Mistress" or "my queen."

Unfortunately, he's so prideful & wicked here that the only way to make him better is by breaking him down first. And even then, he'll prefer his new place. This being the ultimate reflection of his Might Makes Right mentality. Meaning that, in his mind, Darling had totally & completely beaten him in every way that mattered, therefore she was allowed to do whatever she wished to him & he was hers to command.

And he's so brainwashed by this belief that he's turned on by her utterly dominating him.

Needless to say, he's a sick mofo.

Somnophile - Actually, very much enjoys watching her sleep. (Just because he's a wicked piece of shit doesn't mean that he's incapable of real affection.) He's also prone to admiring her face in a relaxed state. Those are some of the only times that he allows himself to be truly tender with his Darling as he actually feels safe to do so. Will kiss her face sweetly & tuck hair behind her ear & nuzzle her face or neck.

At the same time, due to how he is, especially when he's still in power, if she suddenly wakes up & sees him, it'll often induce fear as the image is quite creepy. And worse is that he won't even stop. Choosing to instead continue indulging in her presence, though with a more sinister air to it.

He also has no issue with the idea of having sex with someone while they sleep or receiving pleasure as he himself slumbers. In fact, when giving, he enjoys challenging himself to see how long he can breed her without waking her fully. Seeing it as a victory if he manages to get them both to the finish without waking her. (He tends to be extra full of himself for the rest of the day afterwards.) He'll also whisper some of the sweetest praises you've ever heard while she’s still under. Though even if he does wake her, he'll simply continue unfazed, just without the tenderness. And when receiving, he'll often see it as quite possibly the absolute best way to wake up.

However, due to his nature as a person, he doesn't see a need for permission unless he's been fully toppled from his perch & subsequently ground into the dirt.

As such, he does this regardless of consent.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up. Though, he hasn't had the chance to play in a while.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Pride singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. Which, BTW, I think he'd have a naturally operatic voice.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances, specifically in this situation, the more sexual ones. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Pride has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

Bratty Bottom Who Enters Subspace Fairly Easily - Never ever will you find a brattier bottom. Though, if she treats him tenderly while he's in subspace, it'll unconsciously accelerate his transition into the mindset of her as his Mistress.

Bondage or Restraining - Loves to have his Darling helpless beneath him & crying out his name. However, the gander doesn't appreciate its own medicine initially.

Enjoys Toys - By that I mean adult toys.

Harem Owner - Has many concubines that he uses at his leisure. Until Darling makes him hers. At which point, they're all dismissed.

Extremely Touch Starved - Only rivaled by Envy, this Gdorf is unbelievably touch-starved & despite everything, craves physical affection like it's a force of nature. Absolutely melts when given it. However, he tends to be very tsundere about it.

Initially Refuses To Be Dominated - In the beginning, even when acting as the bottom, he needs to be in control. Until he's tamed as mentioned above, at which point he may eventually begin to willingly refer to her as mistress & literally beg to be used like a whore by her.

Praise/Degradation - Mostly (mocking) degradation &, while he’s more classy in how he speaks, even the few times he praises, it tends to be very filthy & the compliments backhanded.

Until he's tamed as mentioned above, at which point the praise floweth like water.

Manhandler - Bastard's huge. You know that he uses it to his advantage, too. He'll hold his lovers down or hold them in the air as he fucks them.

Sometimes he’ll even use his size & strength to essentially use her like his personal toy, which is when he likes to refer to her as “mori yàlàbanï” or his “pretty little toy” the most as a form of dehumanization.

Dacryphiliac - He thinks a woman is prettiest when she's in tears.

Will kiss them away in mock comfort, but he's most likely just savoring their salty flavor as he palms himself.

Dude's sick.

Body Worship - Enjoys his cock being worshipped. Especially when he sits upon his throne.

However, once he's broken in, he'll borderline treat her as a literal goddess.

Exhibitionist - Legitimately does not care when or where he has sex &, in fact, sees it as his right to be able to take from others' bodies whenever.

As mentioned above, he especially takes great, sadistic joy in forcing his defeated enemies into worshiping his cock as he sits upon his throne & attends his audience or meetings.

Despite this, is actually deeply humiliated if his Mistress dominates him in front of others. However, despite himself, it actually turns him on more.

Pegging - Easiest way to fuck with his head is to fuck him in the ass, but in such a way that he enjoys it. Especially if Darling is a Vae. Put him in a position where he’s horny & his cock is throbbing for release, the head of her dick/strap all that’s left inside him, but the only avenue left to him to take pleasure is the length breaching him. Thus, forcing him to decide which he wants more right at that moment; his dignity or release.

If he begins to fuck himself on her, then Darling should giggle & praise him for being a good boy.

A major part of his eventual submission is the humiliation that he’ll feel at having given in.

Secretly, he’ll love it when his lover breeds him or his throat. Or when she covers him in her jizz or, in the case of a Heroine, even pisses on him as a sign of ownership. (He's got some serious issues inside that head of his.)

He’ll begin to shiver.

Once he’s totally embraced her as his mistress, he’ll eagerly suck her off no matter who might be present. If anything, it turns him on more.

Edging & Overstimulation - When he's stressed, he likes to take it out on his favorite Và'màziah. Though, despite what you'd expect, he doesn't use violence to relax. He uses exerting effortless power over someone he believes can't possibly fight back.

With his Darling, he likes to show her how little power she has by edging her until she'd begging like a slut for his cock. If she so much as dare to voice any sort of disagreement, he’ll just smirk viciously before proceeding to overstimulate her until she's sobbing endless apologies & begging forgiveness.

Which, the sound of really gets him off. He's liable to demand she repeat herself as he jacks off on her face then orders her to rub it into her skin.

If she does, he'll nearly purr with satisfaction as he pulls her into his arms, nuzzling her cheek to take in the smell of him on her.

Though, he also can't seem to handle the same.

WW (Envy) Specifically:

This is the Adult Timeline, which means he experienced being at the top & nearly achieving his goals (even being King of Hyrule for a period of 7 years) before being toppled like a stack of dominoes. This humbled him to a degree & has had a strong effect on him.

Envy keeps his hair short due to perceiving himself as having failed as both a king & a man, thus he doesn't really see himself as a true man, let alone a true king, anymore.

Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that Greed really cared about his people as much as some assume. Because if he had, then why were the Gerudo still all living in the desert? Why did he have them brainwashed? In this way, I think that he keeps his hair that short mostly due to failing himself & his own lofty ambitions.

As such, if Envy does feel guilty for having failed them, then it isn't for as selfless of a reason as some like to portray it being.

It's possible that he is genuinely regretful, but the likelihood of it only being because of his own personal failure, is actually very high.

Soft, But Manipulative & Unassuming Yandere (Borderline Sane) - Having been humbled so, he tends to have a stronger hold on his yandere tendencies. As such, he is more subtle in his machinations. "Soft" means that he'll often regret or feel guilty over the bad things he does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop.

One of the 2 Dorf most likely to use pleasure & overstimulation as punishment.

Prone To Jealousy - Yet, he also tends to keep it to himself. However, that causes it to simmer until it boils over.

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact a secret &, if nothing else, he at least puts in the effort to be polite about it. Will sometimes stalk his Darling & is prone to apodyopsis through the eyes. Can also be quite the tease.

Extremely Touch Starved - Only rivaled by Pride, this Gdorf is unbelievably touch-starved & almost openly craves physical affection like it's a force of nature. Absolutely melts when given it. Whereas Pride is the spicy cat that needs socializing, Envy is the big, fluffy cat that just sorta wanders into your house & decides you're its new family. Loves cuddles & is in no way ashamed of this fact. Might be a bit embarrassed, but not ashamed of it.

Secretly Wants To Be Dominated (every once in a while) - If a woman can kick his ass, instant erection. Though, he'll try to contain his excitement & will find his reaction embarrassing.

Has a greater tolerance for being defeated by a beautiful Vai due to having been humbled so.

Once more, it's Gerudo custom that if a ruler is beaten by a member of the opposite sex (so long as they are the relatively same age), they are to be the ruler's spouse. In the old days, the Gerudo ruler was expected to make that happen by whatever means necessary. (This tradition also holds true for the common Gerudo, though to a lesser degree.)

So, in many ways, as soon as she knocks him on his ass, he mentally begins calling her his wife or his queen & will quietly simp for her.

Somnophile - Actually, very much enjoys watching her sleep. He's also prone to admiring her face as she dozes. Will kiss her face sweetly & tuck hair behind her ear & nuzzle her face or neck.

If she wakes, she'll likely catch quite the soft expression on his face & Envy, upon noticing, will give a quiet “Sàv'otta.”

He also has no issue with the idea of having sex with someone while they sleep or receiving pleasure as he himself slumbers. In fact, when giving, he enjoys challenging himself to see how long he can breed her without waking her fully. Seeing it as a victory if he manages to get them both to the finish without waking her. (He tends to be somewhat full of himself for the rest of the day afterwards. A slight mischievous streak will also have him not mentioning what happened.) He'll also whisper some of the sweetest praises you've ever heard into her ear as he gently breeds her.

And if he happens to wake her, he'll stop as she comes to completely & wait for her consent. If he's told to stop, he'll get pouty, but he'll acquiesce. However, if she tells him to keep going, he’ll do so gladly, though perhaps a bit restrained in his affections as it’s easier to behave so tenderly with one who doesn’t hear. And when receiving, he'll often see it as quite possibly the absolute best sight to wake up to.

Will not do this without discussing it with her.

Audiophile - Loves music. Very much has an ear & talent for music. As well as the dedication & discipline to back it up.

He's also very likely to use the scant amount of acoustomagy that he knows to get what he wants. Though, the majority of his music spells tend to be Charm or Enchantment based.

Such as using music to cast something like the Friends or Suggestion spells from DnD.

At the same time, they work best when performed subtly, especially if there's already a certain degree of amiability between himself & the target as it allows the magic to latch onto something concrete.

In the case of using one on a Darling, I can definitely see Envy singing “Music of the Night” as done by Ramin Karimloo while playing the organ. Which, BTW, I think he'd have a naturally operatic voice.

However, the way this specific type of spell works is that it latches onto pre-existing feelings of attraction & bolsters them. But if the target is already fully & genuinely in love with the caster, then the spell doesn't take hold at all. The reason being that real, genuine love is far, & above, much stronger than synthetically induced attraction.

Those under this spell are compelled to be obedient to the caster & are much more likely to accept said caster's advances, specifically in this situation, the more sexual ones. They are also far, far more likely to believe anything the caster says. It also induces an eagerness to please.

The most effective, yet unpredictable, way of breaking this particular enchantment is through heartbreak. Especially if the target is particularly monogamous. It could be by her learning that Greed has placed a love spell upon her, that he's only using her, that he sees her as little more than a pawn, (though, these have to be from his own lips), or even just seeing him in the loving embrace of another.

And yes, Lust very much is jealous of this ability.

Breeding, Pregnancy, & Lactation Kink - He just gives me that vibe.

Reciprocal Parent Kink - Only applies when they have a kid together. It's not even remotely about age-play & is instead about acknowledging each other's domestic roles. It's essentially calling each other mother or father of my child. Takes great, masculine pride in being referred to in such a way. Age-play creeps him out.

Power Dynamics - Naturally dominant, but has discovered that he enjoys switching things up a bit. However, he'd have to be very close to her to allow that, but much like how being dominated can be relieving & destressing for CEOs, so too can it be for Envy.

This Gdorf finds it pretty easy to give up control.

FSA (Gluttony) Specifically:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea.

Either way, this is a reincarnation of Pride (meaning, Pride died & was reborn as someone new) & he's affected by the fact that his people were banished from Hyrule, so he likely has ideas of revenge rolling around in that head of his. (Not sure if learning that they were banished because of his predecessor's actions would change anything, though.)

Important note: Gluttony is Lust from before breaking free of the Four Sword.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. Even more so than Greed.

Indulgent - He enjoys luxury. Even more so than all the other Ganondorfs & this includes sexually.

Hedonistic - Seeks out pleasure in whatever way he can. This goes hand-in-hand with his indulgent tendencies.

Secretly A Pervert - Honestly, can be every bit as much of one as Lust, but he hides it about as well as Envy does. The reason he's a pervert is simply due to the nature of gluttony. It isn't just about eating too much, it's about overindulgence & that goes for everything, including sex.

Ergo, he overindulges in his partners' bodies. He does seem to have an oral fixation though.

- Oral King - Look it up. The most liable to get pussy drunk. If his Darling happens to be a Vae, he'll waffle a bit before caving into curiosity. To his own embarrassment, he'll actually quite enjoy it.

Food Kink - Yes, I am playing to the new nickname he's been given. What of it?

- Cream Cook - Enjoys using semen & breastmilk in his cooking.

Thing is, he never feels the need to inform those he's feeding of such because it was relatively common amongst the Gerudo during the famines to use such ingredients when there was lean access to water, milk, or eggs.

He'd actually been something of a source of spunk in such times. Normally, if he were any other race of human, such a method wouldn't be worth the effort. However, because of his Mùta Vallah'jï Shôhxàl, he produces a much larger amount at a time. Thus making it relatively viable as a survival tactic.

There have even been times when he's had to go down on himself for the sake of survival.

Of course, this method was typically more to tide one over until they'd managed to locate actual sustenance.

Important to note: If he's aware that a child may be consuming his food, he will not use this method. Refuses, in fact.

Sensitive Nipples (But does not know) - As sensitive as Lust’s nipples.

Enjoys Toys & Lingerie - By that, I mean adult toys.

Somnophile - Actually very much enjoys watching her sleep. He's also prone to admiring her face as she dozes. Will kiss her face sweetly & tuck hair behind her ear & nuzzle her face or neck.

The idea of fucking someone in their sleep or being ridden in his sleep turns him on. But he is very disinclined to trying it unless he's been given a clear message from his Darling that she wants that. (Even then, for a long time after he starts it, he tends to be a bit shy for a few days afterwards.)

When first confronted, he says “Rijōnï hō umehéda so.” (My apologies for waking you.)

But while he's rutting her, he'll also whisper some of the sweetest praises you've ever heard into her ear as he gently breeds her. And if he happens to wake her, he'll silently freak out before pulling out & rolling over to pretend he's asleep while being ridiculously embarrassed & sort of ashamed. However, if she catches him before he does this & tells him to keep going, he’ll light up, but flush before continuing. Though, the praise will be a bit more retrained. And when receiving, he'll see it as the most beautiful sight & the absolute best way to wake up.

Will not do this without discussing it with her.

Secretly Wants To Be Dominated - Despite his overall shyness, he actually wants someone (specifically a Vai or a Vae) to dominate him. Not just that, but to take him "against his will."

Touch Starved - Absolutely craves physical affection & melts when given it. As opposed to Pride's spicy cat & Envy's fluffy cat, Gluttony's more so the feral, shy cat who desperately wants attention, but has obviously been abused. Loves cuddles. A bit embarrassed & a little ashamed of it.

Breeding, Pregnancy, & Lactation Kink - He just gives me that vibe.

Loves Soft Service Doms/Housewife Kink - A maternal, nurturing, & doting Dear will find Gluttony quite attached to her. He craves being treated with tenderness. Though, it depends on the energy that Darling puts behind it if he'll respond.

Soft Yandere - The most unassuming Yandere of the lot, because not even Darling is really sure that the flags are there.

He's one of the least likely to punish her with pain & as likely to do so via pleasure, overstimulation, & humiliation as Envy, but not as much as Lust.

HW (Lust or Lech) Specifically:

Don't know much about him. I'll have to play the game or watch a playthrough to get a better idea. But so far, I'm getting that Hyrule Warriors was the catalyst for the 3 timelines merging by creating an event that was inevitable in all 3. A.k.a the Era of the Wilds.

Straight, But On Thin Ice - Borderline bisexual, but definitely heteroromantic. Has zero romantic interest in men. Mostly fucks men to dominate & humiliate them much like his other selves, but there is a small part of him that legitimately enjoys it & even finds certain men somewhat attractive. As such, he doesn't mind using men to "relieve stress."

At the same time, in Gerudo society, due to their reproductive situation, there is a distinct pressure on everyone to be straight & an overt bias against legitimate homosexuality & even bisexuality.

So, while Lust doesn't consider himself to be legitimately attracted to men, he knows that his liaisons would be taken as such. However, in the old days Feminizing the Enemy was common amongst the Gerudo. Gerudo Vaien especially tended to do this to the males of their enemies. But, before the all-female curse, when Gerudo Voen did it to the male enemies, it was strictly seen as an act of dominance & humiliation against the enemy to break their morale. And the few female enemies found on the battlefield tended to be enslaved & made into concubines.

As such, even though it wasn't as in practice anymore, Lust sort of uses it as an excuse to be able to get his rocks off whenever.

Amazing Kisser - Self-explanatory.

Secretly Perverted - Can range from flirty to downright lecherous (but not chauvinistic), however he tries to keep this fact on the relative dl from his subjects &, if nothing else, he at least puts in the effort to be polite about it. Will sometimes stalk his darling & is prone to apodyopsis via the eyes. The biggest tease with the most perverted mind out of all the Gdorfs.

A Bit Of A Slut - Always up for sex. While the Gerudo tend to be more sex-positive, they believe that there is a distinct difference between just having a bit of fun every once in a while, & outright being loose with one's body & this Ganondorf would be considered loose among them. He knows this &, thus, tries to keep this fact a secret from his people.

Homme Fatale - A seductive & charming, but manipulative & dangerous man. A cereal one-night-stander. Despite this, he's extremely romantic & suave, which is partly how he gets laid so often.

An Incorrigible Flirt - As mentioned above, he's very romantic, very suave, & very charming. Knows that he's attractive & flaunts it. Often using it to his advantage to get what he wants.

Part of this is connected to being manipulative. He sees what he wants & will get it by whatever means necessary. Even if it means flirting with the enemy regardless of sex.

Unbothered By Nudity - Doesn't care who sees him in the buff. Absolutely shameless.

A Subtle & Unassuming, But Very Dangerous Yandere - He keeps these tendencies hidden, but doesn't stop from indulging in them. Extremely manipulative & a definite gaslighter. So good at hiding it, in fact, that extremely few would believe his Darling if she were to try & tell anyone. This would result in her becoming isolated & lonely, thus becoming vulnerable to his machinations. Which is exactly where he wants her. Wants her to be dependent upon him. Genuinely believes that he's doing it for her own good.

Lust is most likely to go from simply obsessing over his Darling to genuinely loving her as he gets to know her, thus causing things to become more complicated.

Once he's grown to trust her, he isn't the type to believe that his Darling is cheating on him without some damn strong & condemning evidence. Yes, he'll start off as the suspicious sort, but as he begins to get to know her, he'll begin to trust her more, especially if she's just generally the honest & fidelous type.

Rather, he tends to not like it when she pays other men more attention than she does to him even if she's just being friendly.

Though, he also realizes when she is just being friendly & thus doesn't take it out on her. More so becoming an intimidating presence to the other man by casually, yet not overtly exerting his dominance.

"Soft" means that he'll often regret the bad things he actually does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop. And, he's also the least likely to punish her with pain & the most likely to do so via pleasure, overstimulation, & humiliation.

Wants To Be Defeated - But only by a Vai or Vae. If she's able to put him on his ass? Heart eyes motherfucker! Will high-key simp for her but tries to hide the hearts in his eyes behind a suave, flirty veneer.

Again, it's Gerudo custom that if a ruler is beaten by a member of the opposite sex (so long as they are the relatively same age), they are to be the ruler's spouse. In the old days, the Gerudo ruler was expected to make that happen by whatever means necessary. (This tradition also holds true for the common Gerudo, though to a lesser degree.)

So, in many ways, as soon as she knocks him on his ass, he mentally begins referring to her as his wife or his queen. But he also begins referring to her as such out loud.

Will openly flirt with her & will no longer flirt with anyone else. Also no longer lays with others, not even in acts of dominance. Will even go so far as to outright say that she will be his queen someday to her face. He'll even make little jokes about it when asked.

Someone asks him what he's doing, he might quip "planning my wedding."

Really Wants To Be Romanced - Despite being the dominant sort, he actually really, really wants to be romanced. So, even though he's charming & suave & romantic, he'd actually melt inside if a woman turned all that around on him & tried to woo, romance, or court him. Especially if she were to do so using things that she learned about his interests. May inwardly swoon as a result. Even more than other Ganondorfs. At the same time, he doesn't really know how to pursue a genuine & healthy relationship.

A Sucker For Romance - Most of the novels he enjoys reading that aren't in some way related to cultural anthropology (history, culture, myth, theology, ect) or war/strategy, tends to be smutty romance novels. (If a book has all of those things, though, then he's found a new top pick.) Though, he's a bit of a literature snob as he honestly can't stand badly-written literature.

If he were in any other situation than the one he was in, he'd ship the hell outta Zelink. However, because he is in his current position, this is one instance where he hates the Destined Princess Saved By Her Knight trope.

Craves Love & Affection - More than any other Ganondorf, he wishes to find that woman who he can spend the rest of his life with. In a way that's somewhat reminiscent of Vlad Masters from Danny Phantom. Despite his own tendencies & habits, he's also the one who'd find it the easiest to transition into partner exclusivity, followed quickly by Gluttony & Envy. And with the right guidance, he's the quickest of the lot to take up more healthy relationship habits.

Oral King - Look it up. Though, he's only ever serviced women due to fear of being seen as submissive if he were to suck off a man.

But if his Darling turns out to be a Vae, then let's just say that he is a quick & enthusiastic learner.

Enjoys Toys & Lingerie - By that, I mean adult toys.

Loves lingerie. Corsets especially gets him going.

Kinky - Self-explanatory. Will try almost anything at least once so long at it isn't absolutely disgusting or unsanitary.

Sensitive Nipples - The one time someone tweaked him, he gave the most whorish moan he'd ever made before. It embarrassed him to a degree that he no longer let's anyone touch them. He'd only let someone he trusts to not say anything to anyone or make fun of it, touch them now. Never had them sucked or really played with before, but it would reduce him to a wanton puddle.

Secretly Wants To Be Dominated - Is able to dominate just about anyone without much effort, even when he bottoms. Weaponizes his natural animal magnetism against certain enemies like it's an actual, physical weapon.

However, he actually wants someone (specifically a Vai or a Vae) to dominate him. Not just that, but to take him "against his will."

Dude's a freak.

Touch Starved - Absolutely craves physical affection & melts when given it. Much like Envy, Lust is the big, fluffy cat that just sorta wanders into your house & decides you're its new family. Loves cuddles & is in no way ashamed or embarrassed of this fact.

Somnophile - Actually, very much enjoys watching her sleep. He's also prone to admiring her face as she dozes. Will kiss her face sweetly & tuck hair behind her ear & nuzzle her face or neck.

If she wakes, she'll likely catch quite the lovesick expression on his face & a quiet “Sàv'otta” & “Rijōnï hō umehéda so.” (My apologies for waking you.)

He also has no issue with the idea of having sex with someone while they sleep or receiving pleasure as he himself slumbers. In fact, when giving, he enjoys challenging himself to see how long he can breed her without waking her fully. Seeing it as a victory if he manages to get them both to the finish without waking her. (He tends to be extra full of himself & flirtatious for the rest of the day afterwards. A slight mischievous streak will also have him not mentioning what happened.)

He'll also whisper some of the sweetest praises you've ever heard into her ear as he gently breeds her. And if he happens to wake her, he'll stop as she comes to completely & wait for her consent. If he's told to stop, he'll get pouty, but he'll acquiesce. However, if she tells him to keep going, he’ll do so gladly. Not even a pause as he continues with the shmaltziest praise. And when receiving, he'll often see it as the most beautiful sight & the absolute best way to wake up.

Will not do this without discussing it with her.

Bondage or Restraining - Loves to have his Darling helpless beneath him & crying out his name. However, he quickly realizes that he enjoys it the other way around as well.

Knife-Play & Vampirism - Uses the claws of his gauntlet to make small cuts on his bed buddies. Then proceeds to lick up the blood. Also files his nails into claws.

Weird-Ass Rape Fetish - Secretly wants to be "forced" into sex by someone (specifically a Vai or Vae) stronger a/o more skilled as a fighter than him.

I did say that he was a freak, okay?

Odd Hermaphrodite Fetish - Ever since learning of the Myth of Talthïrï, which had taken place during his 500 years sealed away after facing the Hero of Light & the Four Sword, he'd been curious. Secretly reads Gerudo-written Stolkéda (Strap-On) a/o Vae Yūg Voe (Herm-With-Man) romantic smut literature. Like, the really trashy & borderline cliché, but admittedly well-written kind with great characterization, decent plots, & legitimate relationship growth. It's one of his greatest secrets & would commit literal genocide to keep it that way.

Despite his kink, he actually finds the Legend of Talthïrï (click for more info; WARNING it's weird) & the way that the 3 Vaen have influenced his culture to be legitimately interesting from a cultural anthropology standpoint. Like, there's more to his interest in them than just sexualization & kink.

Lust's current favorite is a book series called “The Heart of the North” written by Highland Gerudo author, Rúdja.

It's evidently based off a true story, though embellished.

It's about the Awli (Prime) Vaesitulïxa (A Vae dominitrix that is paid to break in male concubines) of the time, by the name of Nïla, & a new Vo'màzr (Gerudàn word for male concubine), named Thordack, a Hebra-born Ovelian (humans without pointed ears), set in the time before Vaen were allowed to wed.

They fought in battle between the Desert & Highland Gerudo as enemies & Nïla found herself excited by his strength & warrior spirit, not to mention his unusual height (taller than herself). However, before the battle could conclude, her soldiers intervened & he had been captured & she'd raped him in battle.

Wanting him for breeding stock, instead of killing him, she had him made into a Vo'màzr.

But he was fierce & refused to be broken, so she endeavored to break him. Though she was unable, until he was forced to breed a client & he later learned that he'd sired a Vaivï (girl) with her.

Then, his once limitless defiance seemed to falter as he realized that he had a child whose life he was forbidden to be a part of.

Something about that, Nïla found strange, so she endeavored to understand. It turned out that in Hebra culture, becoming a father was considered an almost sacred duty (I mean, so was becoming a mother, but fatherhood would obviously apply to him more) with both a father & a mother being considered essential to the development of children & the idea that he was unable to accomplish his duty, hurt.

In the process of learning this though, she committed a cardinal sin among Vaen. She fell in love.

She then bought him & became his Vaeyïda, his Mistress.

From then on, they got to know each other & when they bred, they made love.

When Nïla became pregnant, she saw a different side to Thordack. One that was gentle, yet still showcased strength & masculinity. He became protective & nurturing in a way that was unique compared to Vaien.

When she had cravings, he went out & retrieved them with little more than gentle teasing.

When her feet were swollen & aching, he rubbed her feet to sooth them without complaint.

He even built the Vehvï'jï (baby's) cradle himself & made toys for her out of wood, with his own 2 hands.

These were things that Nïla didn't understand.

Then, when the Vehvï was born, Nïla finally began to understand. Men… were important.

Not just as breeding stock, but as fathers & guides. As teachers. Having him there just made caring for their daughter so much easier. She doesn't understand how other Vàman (mothers) manage it.

Then again, she notes sadly that not many do. Many Vàman tend to slowly give their Vaivïn over to the community rather than care for them themselves. It's actually become distressing prevalent she notices. To the point that not many Vaien even remember what it was like being cared for by their Vàma. Nïla herself had been all-but abandoned at age 2 which is around when toddlers begin pushing their boundaries to see what they can get away with. It was also the most common age for Vaivïn to begin showing up at the community homes.

So, hearing with how much love that Thordack spoke of his own mother, who'd been such a big part of his life... It made Nïla want to become that warm, beloved memory for her own Vaivï.

That was when she realized that she wanted to take him as her husband & never wanted to be a stud to anyone else. She wanted this!

But the Gerudo custom would not allow it. So, she & Thordack hatched a plan where they sprung as many of the Vo'màzren as they could & took them & their daughter with them north passed Ealiyah into Hebra where they could marry.

There, of course, is a reasonable amount of smut in the series, but not nearly as much as you'd think. Most of the story is actually plot driven & really goes into the Desert Gerudo's sex industry, as well as the adverse effects that such hypersexualization has on a person's mental state & sense of self-worth as well as criticizing the overall misandry of many of the Desert Gerudo's customs & traditions in an intelligent & thoughtful way without bashing the Desert Gerudo culture itself.

Which is partly why Lust is so invested in it.

Breeding, Pregnancy, & Lactation Kink - He just gives me that vibe.

Predator/Prey Kink: Sometimes, he gets into a certain mood. Where he wants to pursue his Darling. Chase her down. Hunt her. And when he catches her, he wants to fuck her hard & fast & rough. Like animals.

He's not hit with this urge often, but whenever he is, he thoroughly enjoys the chase.

His Darling will know he's in that sort of mood if he watches her from a distance with that look. Eyes sharp & fixated on her like she's prey.

In these times, he'll especially enjoy a Vai who'll tease him just a little but not too much. One who has actual survival skills & can really test him.

In these times, Lust will stalk her & she knows it's go time when he creeps up behind her & whispers into her ear seductively, "run..."

That's her queue to book it. And fast.

TotK (Wrath) Specifically:

Soft, Manipulative, Unassuming, but Eliminating Protective Yandere (Borderline Sane) - Very possessive, protective, obsessive, & is prone to jealousy. However, he's extremely unassuming, even to his Darling. As a result, there's a possibility of a real, healthy relationship growing between them if he's careful. And, once he's grown to trust her, he isn't the type to believe that his Darling is cheating on him without some damn strong & condemning evidence. Yes, he'll start off as the suspicious & paranoid sort, but as he begins to get to know her, he'll begin to trust her more, especially if she's just generally the honest & fidelous type.

Rather, he tends to not like it when she pays other men more attention than she does to him even if she's just being friendly.

Though, he also realizes when she is just being friendly & thus doesn't take it out on her. More so becoming an intimidating presence to the other man by casually, yet not overtly exerting his dominance. He also doesn't tend to be anywhere near as overt in his yandere tendencies as most in the trope are, being an overall duplicitous individual & thus, being the sort to instead try & subtly manipulate his Darling into loving & trusting him. If his Darling reciprocates, then his yandere tendencies will tend to only make themselves known occasionally. However, this can change relatively quickly if he's repeatedly rejected.

As a result of this, Wrath is most likely to go from simply obsessing over his Darling to genuinely loving her as he gets to know her, thus causing things to become more complicated.

Also not the sort to hold his Darling captive specifically unless he's rejected too many times. He will, however, quite readily eliminate anyone who tries to get between them, even if it's a woman who wants to get rid of his Darling so that she can be with him. Especially then.

"Soft" means that he'll often regret the bad things he actually does to his Darling, but that doesn't mean that he'll stop.

Very Possessive - Both of people he genuinely cares about & of things he actually likes. In terms of things, this tends to include his horse, his weapons, & books, especially books revolving around cultural anthropology, mythology, & magical practice.

Gambling Man/Calculated Risk Taker - Recall the fact that this Gdorf sent a swarm of Molduga to attack Hyruleans... who were standing on a mountain... So, they wouldn't have even been able to get to them, most likely.

However, instead of being a dumbass, I think that he actually used them to get information.

The fact that Hyruleans & the Gerudo were at odds with each other at this time, it's likely that not many Hyruleans traveled to the desert during this era. Thus, it's possible that the fact that Molduga can't swim on solid earth might not have been common knowledge within Hyrule.

If so, then Wrath was probably using them as cannon fodder by using their big & intimidating appearance as well as their large numbers to bait Rauru into showing his trump card.

This is very much a possibility due to the fact that not only did he not in any way seem surprised by the fact that they were taken down so easily, but also the fact that he said "the Zonai's Secret Stone." Meaning that he knew about them beforehand.

However, the fact that he was willing to risk looking like an idiot says that while he's a good strategist, he's willing to take a certain degree of risk.

As such, I'm gonna take this & run with it.

He actually very much enjoys both strategy games & luck-based games that involve bluffing or maintaining absolute control of his visage.

Because of this, I actually think that he might be a bit of a card shark & that he actually doesn't mind cheating every once in a while. Like, he'd rather not (because where's the fun in that), but he will.

Because of this, I see him being good with sleight-of-hand.

He'd probably enjoy playing strip poker with his Darling. Would also absolutely teach her how to hustle people.

Also enjoys making bets. And while he's okay with cheating, if he makes a bet & he loses, he's actually very firm on keeping to said bet. Though, he may use loopholes in the wording used, whether his or theirs.

Breeding, Pregnancy, & Lactation Kink - He just gives me that vibe.

Strong, But Not Too Strong Women - If she's able to literally beat him from the beginning, then that'll just get him angry & make him hate her. Occasional wins are fine, it's beating him consistently that would chafe him.

If she ever does beat him, even if only briefly & due to surprising him, it's best if it happens after he's grown at least somewhat attached to her for things to turn out well between them.

At which point, he may simp slightly, but not a lot. Not even any Gerudo women can boast such a victory against him.

He's alive long after the flood of WW, so a lot of the old Gerudo customs have been lost. Including the custom that demands Gerudo of age marry foreigners of the opposite sex who defeat them. As such, he doesn't have that influence to shape his views.

Size Difference Kink - A petite Darling is perfect for him. He loves how delicate she is.

Power Dynamics - Naturally dominant & initially uncomfortable with letting go of control. He'd have to be very close to her to allow that, but much like how being dominated can be relieving & destressing for CEOs, so too can it be for Wrath.

Loves to watch her ride him.

Predator/Prey Kink: Sometimes, he gets into a certain mood. Where he wants to pursue his Darling. Chase her down. Hunt her. And when he catches her, he wants to fuck her hard & fast & rough. Like animals.

He's not hit with this urge often, but whenever he is, he thoroughly enjoys the chase.

His Darling will know he's in that sort of mood if he watches her from a distance with that look. Eyes sharp & fixated on her like she's prey.

In these times, he'll especially enjoy a Vai who'll tease him just a little but not too much. One who has actual survival skills & can really test him.

In these times, Wrath will stalk her & she knows it's go time when he creeps up behind her & whispers into her ear seductively, "run..."

That's her queue to book it. And fast.

Reciprocal Parent Kink - Only applies when they have a kid together. It's not even remotely about age-play & is instead about acknowledging each other's domestic roles. It's essentially calling each other mother or father of my child. Takes great, masculine pride in being referred to in such a way. Age-play creeps him the eff out.

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[thatuselesshuman]

A ramble about the story/ending of ORV

SPOILERS (obviously)

So, I read the novel a while back, but I still am not over it, so you guys get to read my interpretation of the ending of ORV (well obv you don't have to read it but yk).

So quick little reminder of what happened: 51% of Dokja got back on the subway and became The Most Ancient Dream. As he was doing his duties, his soul was slowly breaking down and being reincarnated into different world lines. HSY and YJH go through hell and back to get Dokja back fully, spreading what we know as ORV to different world lines so that the readers could imagine him back, but the ending is left up to interpretation whether or not Dokja actually came back.

Now for my interpretation! So we know that Dokja can mean a couple of things in Korean, including 'reader' and 'only child.' Dokja's name means a lot more for his story than we may originally think. Of course there's the surface level things like the fact that Dokja loves to read and he is an only child, but I think it's deeper than that.

In ORV, Kim Dokja starts out alone. Yes, Sangah joins him on the subway eventually (which is even an odd occurrence), but we first see him sitting alone and reading. Even before the story, most of Dokja's backstory that we see is him being alone. This continues throughout the story, where Dokja is often alone in his struggles because he leaves his friends to keep them 'safe.' Then, at the very end, he once again makes the decision to be alone in the subway as The Most Ancient Dream.

Dokja has a habit of isolating himself, physically or mentally, even at the end. He is an only child by choice, since he hasn't ever known much else. He doesn't let anyone in, doesn't let anyone know anything without them taking it forcefully, and thinks that they're better off that way. He rejects any 'found family' he could get because he's obsessed with a world where his friends get all that they want, but without him in that world.

Now for the reader part of his name. This has a lot more to do with the ending. So I mentioned how Dokja's soul was dissolving and being reincarnated into different world lines, right? Then HSY spread ORV? What I think that the author was trying to say, was that we all have a little bit of Dokja (reader) in us all. All of Dokja's greatness and all of his flaws, we all have some of them in us as readers. We are Dokja. We are like a constellation, a consumer of the stories of others, neither inherently good nor bad. We sometimes feel like a side character or not as important, because our lives aren't as interesting. We survive off of stories, whether to get through life or otherwise.

I also think there was a big reason to leave the ending as open as it was. When HSY spread ORV, we were the ones reading it in the story. We are the incarnations of Dokja (readers). It is up to our imagination whether Dokja lives or not, because we are apart of the story. If you think that Dokja lived, then he did canonically. You imagined him alive, so he's alive. If you think that they failed, then they failed canonically. You imagined that they failed and that Dokja was still out there, so you are the reader that kept him on the other side of the curtain. I think that this is an amazing way of telling the story, if you understand it.

ALRIGHT THAT'S THE END OF MY SUPER LONG RAMBLE. That was way longer than I thought it would be lol. Kudos to you for reading it all.

[pttucker]

I grew cognizant of the fact that the surrounding gazes now felt different after hearing him; some Constellations were glaring at us, while some were looking on with envy. And some even shook their heads, their eyes saying that we'd eventually become just like everyone else. ⸢Once upon a time, we used to be like you.⸥ Suddenly, it felt as if the Stories these Constellations experienced were near enough for me to reach out and touch them. [Ancient Giant Stories are staring at the Story of <Kim Dokja's Company>.]

I really wonder sometimes what parts of the world are just parts of the world and which parts are only experienced by Dokja.

Obviously, everyone seems to know what a Giant Story is and as far as I can tell everyone who has one can call it up to "speak." Though how others experience that "speaking" I'm not certain. Also, others can feel when one is pressing down on them, though, again, I'm not certain if they actually see it as this sentient being with feelings and desires or if they just feel the pressure of it?

Heewon & Hyunsung were able to sense the gaze of the Giant Story in the reincarnation arc we just went through but they don't mention feeling its emotions, seeing it play out, talking to it, etc. Also, that may have been a special case anyway due to the fact that they were actually inside the story and the worldview of the story was forcing them to conform.

Like, we have moments like the above scene where it almost feels like Dokja has had an epiphany and now he can suddenly see all the stories around him, can almost touch them, and he's aware of all the stories that are looking back at him. Or like maybe he's finally focusing on them and so they become clearer?

Not to mention, he also just had one of his stories come to life without him doing anything just because he was remembering it. (Also the pebble story suddenly activated without his input the first time he turned "invisible" iirc.)

[Story, 'King of a Kingless World', has begun its storytelling!] I didn't do anything, yet the Story began coming to life, anyway. 'King of a Kingless World' was born as the [Absolute Throne] was destroyed.

I went back through searching ORV for "Giant Story" and it actually looks like the first time one of them really begins to show a personality is after Dokja acquires Torch That Swallowed the Myth, immediately after which Demon Realm's Spring also begins to exhibit signs of being sentient. Before that all mentions of Demon Realm's Spring are basic "X is protecting your incarnation body," "X has started the story," "X is continuing," etc. Same thing with King of a Kingless World; it takes a little bit longer but that story (and others) begin reacting to Torch That Swallowed the Myth like they're alive and then seem to stay "alive" after that?

I mean, Dokja does say:

The giant stories were inherently different from other stories. The strong stories chose their master and had enormous influence, eventually becoming the master itself. In particular, the Torch That Swallowed the Myth was particularly belligerent. If I showed even the slightest gap, this story wouldn't hesitate to eat me with its own flames.

So maybe everyone eventually gets to this state. Maybe they're already in this state where they also experience stories in this same manner but we just can't tell because it's Dokja's POV? At least if they have Giant Stories???

Except I'm really trying to remember all the times where a character has directly reacted to a story in the same way Dokja does and I'm not certain I can remember one? Or where a story has reacted to them like they do to Dokja. Like, when we shift POVs, even to Joonghyuk's POV, we don't really see messages like—

[Giant Story, 'Demon Realm's Spring', is calmly staring at you.] [Giant Story, 'Torch that Swallowed the Myth', is holding back its intense crying.]

—and Joonghyuk was in those stories so he has them too.

And Joonghyuk does react to things. There was a scene where the Fourth Wall was glaring at him and he very clearly stated that he didn't care if it was glaring at him.

Then again, Joonghyuk is a tank so maybe he just doesn't need his Giant Stories to protect him and fight for him as much as Dokja does? So they don't really come up? Parts of them did respond to Dokja's parts when he just recently fought Joonghyuk (Divorce Arc lol) but that was, again, from Dokja's POV.

There is also the fact that Dokja's POV is First Person whereas the other characters in ORV are Third Person...

idk, just something I've been trying to figure out as I go along because Dokja is a very special case with all of his unique skills and attributes and now also with the new technique he just learned from Yoo Hoseong.

He's always slipping in and out of people's thoughts, other people's POVs, the Fourth Wall is constantly talking to him and narrating things including his thoughts, the people in the Library are talking through the Fourth Wall, he's recalling passages from TWSA, he's getting messages left right and center from constellations, dokkaebis, the scenario, his party, Midday Tryst is going off whenever Sooyoung or Joonghyuk are in the vicinity, stories and skills and abilities are pinging all over the place...

Yeah, so his POV is a bit of a confusing mess at times and I can't always tell what's just a weird Dokja thing and what's a normal "function" of this world. 😅

Honestly, now that I look at the list of stuff that's constantly going on in his head, it's a wonder he has the mental energy to focus on just walking around let alone being a scheming schemer who schemes.

[eyeswaitingfortuesdaynight]

i've changed my mind, i don't want the sydney dome to fall first, i want it to be the london dome

top performing domes at the constellation banquet were seoul, washington, moscow, and new delhi. japan is mentioned a lot due to the peaceland arc, china has their own incarnation that ends up on the final battlefield, the uk and italy are both mentioned in passing in the early parts of the novel.

while the domes may have sprung up over the current capitals of their respective countries, the fact that europe has at least three confirmed domes and japan has their own dome tells me the dome placement is not about population or proximity, but rather culture.

all the countries noted in the novel to have domes have very distinct cultures - it's even mentioned in the novel that the early scenarios are specifically for historical constellations, which would mostly be in the dome. afaik, there's no mention of domes in what can be considered the global south (south and central america, africa, oceania) plus the middle east? (save for the existence of papyrus as a nebula, but no actual domes or incarnations afaik) this might be an indication of unconcious authorial bias (irl or in-canon - both can apply, i've noticed most asian authors, when not focusing on their own countries, focus on asia, america and europe, in order) and might also be an indication of just how difficult the scenarios are in general. i suspect earth might have more domes than average due to the diversity of cultures or maybe even due to the large population. other planets/worlds i'm aware of existing in the novel don't have domes, so we have a sample size of one on this (as usual for astrobiology lol)

focus on culture indicates the domes might cover the culture of several countries or an entire region, just as they may have multiple in one region (america vs europe). i can't imagine canada has a seperate dome due to the shared history and culture with the usa. ditto korea - north korea has only existed for 70-ish years? can't imagine justifying splitting the korean penninsula constellations between seoul dome and a hypothetical pyongyang dome.

(side note: the fact that north korea hasn't started shit while the literal apocalypse is happening indicates to me that, on top of assassinating the top brass of every country, the dokkaebi probably stole all the nukes too. star stream seems in general very set on having either it or incarnations decide the fate of planets - non-incarnations are not allowed to sway things in major ways or they get their heads blown up)

....anyway, australia and new zealand probably have a consolidated cultural dome in sydney. but australia in general has a reputation for being badass and scary af. rather than having sydney fall, it would be much funnier to have london fall first. a new version of the rhyme can happen lol

🎶 london dome is falling down, falling down, falling down~ 🎶

[cyndaquillt]

Ideas for South Asia ORV AU (fic? fan comic? daydream? Idk) that I need to get out of my system:

India be big so it doesn't make sense to only have a scenario in just the NCR. Initial scenarios will happen in all the metros (Delhi/NCR, Kolkata, Mumbai, Chennai) and Bengaluru (debating whether to include Hyderabad but that's too many cities in the south so I'll just drop it)

Wanna build a Ranveer Khan backstory but idk if Ranveer Khan will be my protag or if he'll just be a background famous celebrity character.

I had some vague ideas for a protag actually. A 17 yo girl whose brother leaves for Bengaluru a day before the start of the first scenario. She's in Patna (ahahaha not at all because that's my city whaaaaa) and the brother is now locked in B'lore with no communication. Then of course the internet explodes with rumors, media makes up bullshit, general national crisis, etc.

Girl needs to get to the scenario area for my plot to move forward or I'll just do a timeskip till the domes get unlocked we'll see

Some main characters would be incarnations of constellations that show up in og ORV during Demon King Selection and Great War of Saints and Demons. Some agree with their constellations, some are exploited against their will, some are like Selena Kim who think they're siding with a just cause only to be exploited along the way and end up questioning their whole stance. Will have multiple protags prolly and one would be the Selena Kim kind

Dokkaebi is a Korean term and I understand it makes sense for ORV to use it since it was clarified that there's a Korean language patch. Same with terms like Wenny man. I have a headcanon that different regions refer to them differently but respective language patches make up for any difference and discrepancies and I'm thinking of using "Parinda" for Dokkaebi instead. The word translates to winged creature and sure, dokkaebis don't have wings but they fluffy and float, no?

For scenarios like the Peace Land, where there's ppl from different domes participating, there'll be a regional split based on geographical proximity. Kolkata dome will go with the Dhaka dome. Bengaluru and Mumbai in one dome. Chennai and Colombo in one dome. Delhi/NCR and Islamabad in one dome. And of course, our countries beef over things and regional+historical conflicts will give fodder to drama during the scenario.

Some stories and epics I want to include: Jataka Tales, Mahabharat, Panchtantra, regional folk tales like Thakumar Jhuli or tales of Bhushundi Math, Akbar Birbal, etc. Even post modern stories like Malgudi Days and whatnot. Listen I have lived a life like KDJ with these stories creating who I am today and they are obviously gonna make it into an ORV AU I write okay

Protag's squad from Bihar goes to Journey to the West Remake scenario and rewrites it from the perspective of the "West" (India/Tianzhu).

I also wanna have one character that's a <Vedas> bootlicker suggest they turn it into Ramayan and have Sun Wukong become Hanuman and then their story tanks because Sun Wukong hates Hanuman (canon actually).

Nebulae other than the <Vedas>, some of which are collaborators of Vedas, some extremely against the Vedas, and some that are opportunistic and try to be on the winning side.

Split amongst the Vedas similar to the split within Olympus but it's a three-way split where there's a pro, anti, and independent (Surya went independent later on)

Phony incarnations who start cults based on their guesses about what the constellations want and get exploited like hell because all their knowledge and understanding of what the constellations want comes from modern media Sanghi bullshit. This happens in very early scenarios, people remaining in later scenarios are either smarter or opportunistic or adaptable or all of the above. Aka they know better than to make assumptions that won't benefit them in some way.

Vedas subsects based on existing Hindu denominations. Some, like Brahmasamaj or Aryasamaj want to go independent but are riding on the Vedas coattails or getting exploited, etc.

Incarnations and scenarios from some of my favourite parts of history — Pala Kingdom, Sufi and Bhakti movements, Maurya and pre-Maurya Magadh, Indus Valley civilization. Oh and Indus Valley scenario features Outer Gods or incarnations turning into Outer Gods cause how old and forgotten and misrepresented IVC is.

I want Sakyamuni and Nirvana to somehow show up but the jury's out on how. Yk how canon ORV mentions Buddha has different forms? It feels fitting to link Sakyamuni to a scenario set in the proximity of Lumbini (considering that's where the Sakyas ruled and that's why he's called that) but maybe his form changes if the scenario is close to other sites important in his life like Bodhgaya, Sarnath, Sanchi, etc?? We shall see. Protag IS from the region the actual Buddha wandered about so I have good reason to include a fair bit of Isle of Reincarnators crossover (maybe one of the locations is actually where the island physically is??? Gigantomachia could've happened in the actual Mount Olympus, no? I need to finish ORV to see if there's anything canon on this otherwise hc that actual places relevant to constellations serve as portals to scenarios they set up. Mechanics similar to how Demon Castle could be entered through the Seoul dome).

Tis all for now. Will probably get back to this once I finish reading ORV. I wanna be as canon compliant as possible and make this be sort of a "Meanwhile, in South Asia,..." kind of a deal. Stay tuned for more ✌️

[echoequinox]

Starfield spoilers but you know what I'd kill for in the DLC

There are two big things I'd love. 1. Va'ruun. Obviously. The embassy is there so it's likely they're gonna show up, and also their WHOLE ASS HOME PLANET isn't in the game yet so. I hope we get a real serpent. I hope that the serpent is either a legit fucking big scary beast or that the Va'ruun leader is a Starborn

SPEAKING OF, you know what I'd kill for? An endgame story quest. You make it through your tenth run, you have a maxed out Starborn ship, armor, X level powers. And then you find other Starborn do too. They're at the apex of their power, just like you. The Hunter and Emmissary are back, as per usual, but there's so many MORE Starborn now. You all keep going back, and that means universes are absolutely full of Starborn.

So there's war. The Hunter and Emmissary are like, opposing and hesitant generals, neither wants to LEAD really but people follow them - maybe a lot of Yous, or Thems, or Constellation members - and they feel obliged to not leave them behind.

And so now there's REAL stakes. The universe torn asunder. Entire cities under new martial law by superpowered time traveling freaks. The UC and Freestar in shambles trying to deal with this new threat to their world.

The option to cut everyone in the current universe off from Unity FOREVER - yourself included! - in an attempt to stop these newly powerful armies from moving forward.

Maybe you get a set of Constellation companions who have seen it all. A Sarah who loved you and watched you die, and ventured into the black to find another you. A Sam who lost his little girl, and a version of his daughter - all grown up - who lost her daddy. Andreja, fully realized, a Va'ruun badass with deadly powers. Maybe Barrett found his husband, and wants to make this universe good for him, somewhere they could live in peace. Fuck, maybe Matteo, Walter, and Vladimir took the plunge, maybe you have their fully realized versions, too.

A final confrontation with fate and destiny. One last hurrah. Rather than the simple question of Hunter v Emmissary your first go-around, you now have to truly reconcile with eternity. Is it right to let these people flow out into every universe? Is it right to keep them here when they've touched infinity? Is it right for the people of this universe to damn them to being in a universal terrarium with the Starborn?

Maybe if you play it right, the Starborn get their own cluster of planets like the UC/Freestar. Maybe they get an embassy in New Atlantis, and people are offered the opportunity to touch the same powers that the Starborn had. Maybe there's even post-ending quests where you can see how the factions interact with each other.

Also permanent Hunter/Emmissary companions, fully romancable. This Emmissary is you, so you dont have to figure out randomly which Constellation member it is, also you can fuck yourself. I just really wanna fuck the Hunter okay I really wanna kiss that dirty old man.

Man idfk!!!! Starfield feels like the prologue to such a cool story and we never get there

EDIT: SECRET FINAL BOSS IS THE VERSION OF YOU IN UNITY, THEY'RE INFINITY INCARNATE AND THEY'RE MAD YOU'RE TRYING TO SEAL OFF UNITY AND ALSO WE GET A BRIEF GLIMPSE AT WHO MADE THE ARTIFACTS

[sweet-star-cookie]

what information do libra's library books contain? who is allowed to read them?

Good question, and I saw your other ask so I'll answer that one here too! Actually I should probably start with the library's appearance, though as usual I don't have much in the way of images yet 🥴 I basically have to drag my motivation kicking and screaming to do background design these days, but I did manage to sketch a part of what the back wall looks like in my head tonight at least:

I picture it as an ornate but practical two-level library with high ceilings, lots of wood and warm lighting. Notably, its design and floor plan are entirely symmetrical, a deliberate reference to Libra's exactness and a more literal take on the idea of balance in general. The door on the bottom floor is where new or returned books are processed and then returned to the shelves, and beyond that is Lupus's private room. The door on the top floor leads down a hallway to Libra's private room where the scales that she's named after also reside.

Here's an old concept for another part of the building that might give you a better idea of the overall vibe and colours (though I need to update this too, this is from like 2019 lol)

As for what it contains, the library functions similarly to other places that seek to preserve the Astral Plane's history. Any books that were remnants of past constellations, be they the author or the subject, are kept here.

For example, the previous incarnation of Lepus was a famous warrior known as The Great Hare, and she documented many of her adventures in her war diaries, of which there are several volumes. I have some side stories planned for what happens to the Chamaeleon Three after the events of the main story, and the current Lepus learns more about who came before him, hoping to maybe become more heroic and confident like she was.

Libra and Lupus spend a lot of time cataloguing all of the information in the library's books, both for archival purposes and especially for any that may provide even a hint at answering some of the more mysterious questions about the Astral Plane. The library has speculative and entirely fictional works as well though, and you can bet that Capricorn and Pegasus have penned written versions of their various plays as well.

The library is open to the public, as both Libra and Lupus strongly believe in the pursuit of knowledge for all, though there are strict rules in place for the patrons' behaviour to avoid any destruction or disorganization. Anyone can read any book, and accommodations needed for language, blindness, deafness, etc. are achieved magically, with the book itself changing in appearance and/or function to be tailored to the reader. While it is encouraged to read the books inside the library itself, they can be checked out like in any other library.

That is, with the exception of any books that can be used as weapons, like magical tomes, which are stored and guarded elsewhere. Libra's balancing magic is often used to ensure that, even if they were stolen, their magic could be negated to reduce their potential harm.

It is possible for books entirely from Earth to appear here though, albeit in specific circumstances and not every book either. How this is possible is a bit of a spoiler, though it's pretty nebulous for the characters anyway!

Because they lack context from their presumed origins on Earth, it can be hard to determine if some of these books are fact or fiction, though they're usually interesting enough regardless, and at least are another indicator of the connection between Earth and the Astral Plane's residents. Pegasus loves anything from other playwrights that she can find there, for instance.

Given Libra's various duties as the keeper of balance and the resident healer after Ophiuchus's disappearance, Lupus does much of the maintenance and running of the library himself, and he does so diligently, with great reverence for it and Libra herself. When on duty, he is very rarely seen standing still, constantly finding something to do. Libra's magic is always there to assist all throughout the library as well though, like her air magic carrying books in and out of high shelves so Lupus doesn't have to climb a ladder every time to get to it. Floating books are a common sight here!